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matt

11-13-2003 12:01:03




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So i just bought an oliver 550 this summer and i have been looking all over for a set of disks for it, but have had a hard time. I found someone about 3-4 hrs away who has an 8' disk drag behind, and i am wondering what i should ask him to make sure i get what i want. First off i guess one question is does it matter if i get one that is a 3pt or is a drag just fine? The other thing is i just want to make sure this isn't too big for my diesle. I didn't think it was but i thought i would ask. Anything i should ask him before i drive all the way there. Anything i should look out for?
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matt

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Leroy

11-16-2003 09:10:14




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 Re: Questions about Disks in reply to matt, 11-13-2003 12:01:03  
A 550 should have enough HP to under most conditions handle a 10' disc but due to the configuration of the tractor will not have the traction to handle it, duals would help, without duals limited to about 8'



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Indydirtfarmer

11-14-2003 03:09:09




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 Re: Questions about Disks in reply to matt, 11-13-2003 12:01:03  
If you're doing a garden, or some other "small" area, a 3 pt. disc will be much easier for you to deal with. A wheel disc will be a little easier to handle, than a drag disc. If you use a drag disc in a small area, you'll spend too much effort turning. You will have to deal with crossing grass area's of your yard. If you plan on "field work", the old drag disc's will do the job. like someone said, you can't back out of mud with one. Bottom line, the "handy factor" of a 3 pt. disc, will make it better for you. JMHO,John

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paul

11-13-2003 15:43:20




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 Re: Questions about Disks in reply to matt, 11-13-2003 12:01:03  
The 3pt would be handier, the pull behind is sometimes a better disk. Will you need to move from location to location when disking? Then you want a 3pt. If you have one field area, and won't travel on roads, then a drag type is great. If you work in mud, the drag type can sink you tho, no backing out of a wet spot!

I will assume it is a tandem disk, 2 pairs of gangs?

Look that the blades are not loose on the shaft. This makes a lot of wear, and becomes difficult to tighten up again. This would be the #1 thing to look for.

Look for wear of course, on all the pivot points, hitch, angle ajuster.

Make sure the disk blades are big, not worn down. You can spend over $10 a blade to replace them, get a disk that has good big blades.

The bearings - older ones are wood, and usually 1/2 shot or more. If the metal is not worn away, you can make your own bearings pretty easy. If it's all steel, then make sure they are good, as replacements are sparse or very spendy. If it has newer taper or roller bearings, figure in the price of replacing any, can be $20 a piece, can be $110 each.

I'd want to know what make it is, so I can track down the types of parts I'm looking at. But some are just Old Rust brand, so it is. :)

8' drag should work well with a 550, some days you wish it was wider, some days it will give your tractor all it wants - depends on the season & type of soil you are in.

--->Paul

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Tucker

11-13-2003 12:50:00




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 Re: Questions about Disks in reply to matt, 11-13-2003 12:01:03  
I have a 550 gas and i pull a 10 foot international lift disc with it, as long as there is weight on the rear it works great. i had a 6 foot single gang drag before. it was good but a pain the move around.



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kyhayman

11-13-2003 12:31:47




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 Re: Questions about Disks in reply to matt, 11-13-2003 12:01:03  
Matt,

Not sure the hp on your tractor but I've pulled an 8' drag disc behind 40 hp with no problem. I much prefer a drag disc to a 3 point (or to a lift disc for that matter) just seems to do a better job (I use a lift disc however, 8' is just too slow for me). Biggest drawback is moving them. Makes a lot of noise on the asphault and no good for the disc or the road.

David



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Green Smoke

11-14-2003 17:37:22




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 Re: Re: Questions about Disks in reply to kyhayman, 11-13-2003 12:31:47  
I pull a 15' IH disk with a DC Case. DC is 38 HP, pulls it alright, but then again its a Case, and everyone knows Cases have solid power.



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Hugh MacKay

11-15-2003 02:38:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Questions about Disks in reply to Green Smoke, 11-14-2003 17:37:22  
A worn out drag disk is the only way you ever pulled 15' with 38 hp. I most cases a land roller will loosen as much soil as a worn out drag disk. A 20 hp tractor would pull the land roller.

A good cutting disk will require 1.25 to 1.5 hp per disk blade. Anyone who claims to be pulling more is either full of BS or is pulling a non functioning disk. WORN OUT TO SOME DEGREE.



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Leroy

11-16-2003 09:04:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Questions about Disks in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-15-2003 02:38:15  
I agree, and The International No. 37 wheel disc was only made up to a 14' rear gang width and that using a minimum HP per blade of 1 1/8 figures out to 54 Hp A 15' would have 4 more blades and 1 1/4 Hp per blade would require 65 HP



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Hugh MacKay

11-13-2003 12:28:54




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 Re: Questions about Disks in reply to matt, 11-13-2003 12:01:03  
Matt: You sound as though you would be much happier with a 3 point disk. It is rather nice to be able to pick it up and go when you want. Most of those old drag disks are worn completely out, thus you just get what you pay for.

If I were you, I would look for a good 28 blade 3 point. Make sure the disk blades still have good concave. Look for arbor bolts 1-1/4" diameter. Make sure the spacers have a good bell shape thus giving good support on back side of disk blade.

You will pay a bit more but, I'm willing to bet you will have a trouble free disk for the rest of your life. Even if your 21 and life expectancy in your family is 95. Good luck and good disking.

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Dana

11-14-2003 05:10:21




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 Re: Re: Questions about Disks in reply to Hugh MacKay, 11-13-2003 12:28:54  
I think I would try to find some a bit closer than 3-4 hours away.



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Hugh MacKay

11-14-2003 16:29:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Questions about Disks in reply to Dana, 11-14-2003 05:10:21  
Dana: Who said anything about 3-4 hours away? Sure was not me.



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