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Chip S.

10-28-2003 05:48:28




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Built a couple aof anti-erosion berms, and need some suggestions for a fast-growing cover crop so I can get something on it before winter. The berms are in a hilly pasture, but I can put upsome temp. fence to keep the horses off it.
I hearhighway depts have some engineered seed that sprouts in cold weather real quick. Any truth to that? I'm in central Maryland.

Thanks.

Chip




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Hay Dr

10-29-2003 05:10:34




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 Re: Cover Crops in reply to Chip S., 10-28-2003 05:48:28  
Use "Winter King" or "Aroostook" Rye rye. It will grow all winter and if you want to harvest it, Winter King is good for hay, haylage and straw. Cost is usually $10-14 /bu where Rye- variety not stated is $5-7/bu



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paul

10-29-2003 08:27:52




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 Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to Hay Dr, 10-29-2003 05:10:34  
I promise you, it will _not_ grow all winter 'here'. ;) These kinds of things depend on where you are located. ;)

--->Paul



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RayP(MI)

10-28-2003 15:51:56




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 Re: Cover Crops in reply to Chip S., 10-28-2003 05:48:28  
Check with landscaping company - they make a mixture of grass seeds that are sold to Department of Transportations for seeding erosion prone roadside areas, especially after construction work.



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kyhayman

10-28-2003 07:21:50




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 Re: Cover Crops in reply to Chip S., 10-28-2003 05:48:28  
I would use seed rye (not rye grass, rye grain) It will give you a fast cover and grow in cold weather. Cover crop wheat would be ok, but getting a little late in the season.



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R. Marg

10-28-2003 11:39:55




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 Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to kyhayman, 10-28-2003 07:21:50  
wheat isn't good for horses



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R. Marg

10-28-2003 06:29:46




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 Re: Cover Crops in reply to Chip S., 10-28-2003 05:48:28  
here in Missouri they useto use crowd vetch don't use that no matter what it takes over your field a clover would work well or a mix of clovers and it makes good pasture also it grows well in cool weather



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rustyfarmall

10-28-2003 06:35:55




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 Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to R. Marg, 10-28-2003 06:29:46  
Here in Iowa, we call it crown vetch.
Please proof read before you hit submit.



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RWK in WI

10-29-2003 18:11:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-28-2003 06:35:55  
Rusty,
I also post once in a while and have had spelling / typeing errors creep in. Some of us can' t use a spell checker while on the net. Thus we have to disconect, type and check the reply, reconnect ( it is a long distance toll call each time ) then cut and paste the reply and post it. Too much work! Giviing a quick response seems more pratical but if I get too much grief I will stop posting.
I believe the information is more important than the few errors.

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R. Marg

10-28-2003 06:57:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-28-2003 06:35:55  
so I can't spell this is the second time you jumped me rusty what don't you like me please get off my back or in other words if you can't say something good about a person don't say anything



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Mr.T

10-29-2003 10:12:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to R. Marg, 10-28-2003 06:57:21  
Marg.
Lighten up. He was trying to help you look better to the other farmers.
Mr.T



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R. Marg

10-29-2003 10:51:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to Mr.T, 10-29-2003 10:12:41  
I guess I'm just going to delete this site out of my book marks and say good bye I try to help others that don't know and ask but it seems like all I get is a kick in the teeth



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paul

10-29-2003 11:33:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to R. Marg, 10-29-2003 10:51:16  
Hey - come on!

You want a kick in the teeth? Buried my dad yesterday. Now there is a kick in the teeth.

This place is a community for all to share. Have some fun, lighten up. All I see from you is a sour attitude. Say something nice & fun & bright - and you will get a whole lot of the same in return!

I bet clover is a good idea in some locations. As I said in my message, would not be right for _my_ location at this time.

So, you made one little mistake - have some fun with it. Laugh at yourself. Life is too short to be sour grapes all your days.

--->Paul

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kyhayman

10-29-2003 20:22:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to paul, 10-29-2003 11:33:51  
Paul,

My condolences and my prayers to you and your family.

Regards,
David



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Greywolf

10-29-2003 12:31:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to paul, 10-29-2003 11:33:51  
Paul, condolensces to you and yours. It's not easy I know. Lost dad when I was three and mom 12 yrs ago. I'm 49 now and still think of what life might have like with the folks still here.

You are right about lightening up. Life is way too short to carry a grudge.



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R. Marg

10-29-2003 12:25:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to paul, 10-29-2003 11:33:51  
well Paul you don't have some one calling you Homer Shimpson to me that is a kick in the teeth and sorry about your dad all I ever try to do here is help people but it gets old haveing them cut you down because you didn't spell some thing right or you told some one as simple as there are only 2 wires on an amp gauge be called Homer for it but did you know those 2 wires can stop a system from chargeing or even destrory a Gen. or alternator or even burn up your toy sorry if I sound like I'm upset but I am and yes clover here in Missouri is a good cover crop

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paul

10-29-2003 16:40:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to R. Marg, 10-29-2003 12:25:11  
Clover is great cover crop here in Minnesota too - I plant a few acres every year under oats for plow-down. Works very well. :) Was plowing up a small afalfa field right now, and have the 15 acres of clover to plow too yet.

It's just - it's the end of October. We just got a 1/2" of snow this evening..... .

The guy wanted a cover crop _this fall_ yet, and around here, clover comes up real slow, like alfalfa. So perhaps something else, while not as good as clover in other ways, would be the best to get something up & growing this fall yet. Clover would be great for long term, if he puts in something that will come up quicker & protect the ground this fall/winter yet.

All depends on his climate, of course. ;)

Anyhow, have a good one, wasn't questioning you on it, just trying to add my 2 cents as well. :)

--->Paul

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R. Marg

10-29-2003 18:17:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to paul, 10-29-2003 16:40:59  
doesn't matter any more since this will probably be the last time I post anything on here again which of course means all the people I've help are the only one that will get my help I've had it so this is my last post unless something happens to change my mind



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paul

10-29-2003 08:21:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to R. Marg, 10-28-2003 06:57:21  
I'm about the worst speller around here. ;) It does kinda hurt to mess up one of the main 2 words of your message tho, hard for others to figure it out. ;)

As to clover, while they grow in cool weather, they grow real, real slow here in Minnesota anyhow. That probably wouldn't get established in time at the end of October? Just good old oats or rye would be the quickest ground cover 'here', which is what he wanted. Put some clover in with it so you have something longer lasting to come up later or early next year.

(But then here in Minnesota, we would have had to plant any of that 45-60 days ago to get it to grow - killing frost has come & gone here.)

The hwy dept does have grasses that come up pretty quick, I think they use a blend of annual & perennial stuff, some comes up quick but dies, while others come up slow but last for years.

That is probably what you should look for, as you won't find a single grass that will do both, come on quick, and last a long time....

--->Paul

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R. Marg

10-28-2003 06:55:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Cover Crops in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-28-2003 06:35:55  
so I can't spell this is the second time you jumped me rusty what don't you like me please get off my back



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