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Seed drill versus corn planter

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Dave H

10-23-2003 11:38:49




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What is the difference between these two implements? Is the corn planter a drill that only handles corn? Will a seed drill plant corn? I have been cutting hay with my old tractor and sickle and may venture into some other crops. Any recommendations for a older model planter that could handle corn and possibly other grain crops?
As usual, I value any advice you guys have to offer.




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paul

10-23-2003 20:30:49




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 Re: Seed drill versus corn planter in reply to Dave H, 10-23-2003 11:38:49  
You want to plant about 25-32,000 corn seeds per acre, and the corn prefers it _very_ consistant for depth & seed spacing. Corn is very fussy that way. Each stalk counts. Hybred seed costs $60-120 for 88,000 seeds - you don't want to waste it!

Oats, wheat, and other small grains want lots, lots more seeds per acre, but are not so fussy about depth & spacing. A little wasted seed too deep or thin or thick does not matter too much. The seed costs a couple bucks per bushel, and you plant 2-3 bu per acre - not so critical if you waste a bit.

Soybeans are somewhere in between. They like it pretty uniform, but they are able to compensate by branching out if too thin or handle a bit of crowding ok. Conventional bin run seed costs $7-12 an acre, but Roundup Ready cost $25 an acre or more. So you will see both planted & drilled soybeans, and each has it's good & bad points.

So, you can plant corn, soybeans, pumpkins, with a corn planter. You can cultivate or spray for weeds, or both.

You can plant oats, wheat, rye, barley, etc. with a drill. You can probably plant soybeans with it as well, depends on the drill. The small grains will probably outgrow the weeds, and you can get by without spraying much of the time - you can't cultivate. You _must_ spray the soybeans if you drill them, or weeds will smother them.

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Nebraska Cowman

10-23-2003 17:36:12




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 Re: Seed drill versus corn planter in reply to Dave H, 10-23-2003 11:38:49  
I can sell you a van brunt, (john deere) grain drill quite cheap that will plant small grains but it will not plant corn. Corn seed is enough bigger that drills do not handle it except maybe for the newer air seeders.



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Tim(nj)

10-23-2003 19:27:32




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 Re: Re: Seed drill versus corn planter in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 10-23-2003 17:36:12  
That's not true. Soybean seed is often as big as small round corn seed. My Van Brunt drill has settings on the chart for corn planted in wide rows, which simply means you have to plug some feedcups to get the wanted spacing. The problem with a grain drill is that its depth placement is very inconsistent compared to a planter, and the distance of seed placement in the row will be inconsistent compared to a planter. If you are planting for wildlife food plots, the drill may do OK for corn planted on 28" rows (7" drill, leave one feedcup open, plug next three), but for production of a crop that will be harvested, the stand will be too uneven.

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Don-WI

10-23-2003 20:44:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Seed drill versus corn planter in reply to Tim(nj), 10-23-2003 19:27:32  
I agree, We also have a Van-brunt drill and my dad said before we got our corn planter, he just put duct tape over the rows he didn't want, and used that for corn as well. He said it actually worked fairly well. We also didn't have a corn chopper, so he cut it with the haybine then picked it up with the hay head. Didn't do it that way too long, but long enough to know it can be done and work alright till you can afford the right equipment. Donovan from Wisconsin

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Nebraska Cowman

10-24-2003 04:19:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Seed drill versus corn planter in reply to Don-WI, 10-23-2003 20:44:09  
I just knew somebody would prove me wrong. ((((looks embarassed))))



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