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Stu

10-20-2003 09:18:57




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I have a nice little JD #5 sickle mower. I do want to cut hay with it next summer. The people we got it from used it every year for 200 acres. But I saw their field, its cutting un-even and leaves ridges of un cut. I would like to use my winter time to make this set right.

So this is new to me. I guess I need to get new triangular blades on the sickle bar? Or can they be sharpened on the bar. It looks like on the underside of the bar there is fixed cutters too. Should I get those done too?

I have bid on 2 manuals on ebay, but I keep getting scooped! So I will get one but any advice would be appreciated.

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willyz

10-26-2003 05:38:50




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 Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to Stu, 10-20-2003 09:18:57  
I know of a website that might inyerest you



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Robert Cornell

10-21-2003 05:42:48




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 Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to Stu, 10-20-2003 09:18:57  
I use a #5 behind a John Deere 50 right now to cut about 50 Acres of horse hay. You can get virtually every part you need at your local farm supply store, but I have had good luck with Webbs Sickle Service at www.sickleservice.com. He will ship complete bar assemblies with or without heads as well as most other parts at a real reasonable price. The type of sickle section you choose is important depending on the type of hay you are cutting (top serrated, bottom serrated, smooth). And,,,,Yes, it is definitely a finger slicer as noted in earlier replies when raising the bar as the sickle moves when you tilt it up....I have the scars to prove my stupidity! The only real problem I have had was with breaking pitmans and I found the problem was that I had over tightened the bolts on the pitman and created a stress crack.

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Jerry D in NC

10-21-2003 12:31:07




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 Re: Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to Robert Cornell, 10-21-2003 05:42:48  
I second the Webb's Sickle Service comment. Man is great to deal with and product seems excellent. Strongly recommend



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Dave H

10-20-2003 19:21:40




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 Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to Stu, 10-20-2003 09:18:57  
That's a fine mower you got there! I have two of them and probably enough parts to build most of a third. I cut hay with mine and the only issue I have is that you have no hitch/PTO for a crimper.
There are LOTS of manuals on ebay. I just bought a new one plus the parts catalog this evening. I didn't need the manual but the catalog is a great thing and costs $37 new at JD. Be persistant and you will get a good deal. Pay low and get a dirty one cause these machines are all grease and you will need the book in the field. Follow the greasing instructions like religion. Especially the flywheel end of pitman. AND KEEP YOUR FINGERS OUT OF THE TEETH WHEN YOU RAISE THE BAR!

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RJ-AZ

10-20-2003 19:30:31




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 Re: Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to Dave H, 10-20-2003 19:21:40  
Yessir you need to grease that pitman about once per hour or you smoke that bushing. And it is a finger eater when you raise the cutter bar. Make sure the breakaway is free and adjusted properly also. Dad always set it a little light when I was starting out.



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John in SD

10-21-2003 01:20:23




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 Re: Re: Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to RJ-AZ, 10-20-2003 19:30:31  

Best thing to do about that grease bushing is replace it with a sealed bearing when the time comes. It's been a long time since I ran my #5 (bought a new 1100 over 20 years ago!) but it had the bearing in it since I started mowing and never gave any problems.



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Nebraska Cowman

10-20-2003 18:11:36




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 Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to Stu, 10-20-2003 09:18:57  
you can still buy manuals from John Deere. check it out before you spend big bucks for and old dirty one. I think they have an online site, at least a toll free number.



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rustyfarmall

10-20-2003 10:04:32




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 Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to Stu, 10-20-2003 09:18:57  
I grew up running a John Deere #5 mower, it was mounted on an H Farmall.
Yes, you can sharpen the sections with them on the bar, but you need to remove the sickle bar from the mower bar first. Sickle sharpening machines used to be available from farm equipment dealers and farm supply stores, maybe still are. I don't know of any way to sharpen the plates in the guards, but they can be replaced with new ones, or replace the entire guard. You might also want to buy an extra sickle bar, or two, that way you will have a good, sharp one ready to install if you dull or break a section. If you mow several acres, you will want to sharpen, or replace the sickle each day, or maybe even each half day.
Keep looking for that manual, it is a necessity. Another good place to look for a manual is antique stores, most all of them have at least one vendor with old books and manuals.

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RJ-AZ

10-20-2003 17:54:20




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 Re: Re: #5 mower cutters in reply to rustyfarmall, 10-20-2003 10:04:32  
I too pulled a #5 behind a Farmall H and would sometimes go through 3 sickles per day. I carried all the tools and around 6 spare guards and had a rack on the side of the tractor to hold spare sickles. I would then sharpen the dull sickles after supper and be ready for another day. I was expected to knock out 30 acres a day or have a darn good reason. The sharpening stone is shaped to fit in the "V" between the sections. The ledger plate either prys out or has a rivet holding it in. The hold-downs are shimmed the keep the sickle running true. And a wellmaintained mower does a real good job.

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