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cured hay @ twine tension

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mike

10-16-2003 08:11:49




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I am really amazed at how much better hay cured right will bale than slightly damp hay with my old square baler. I purchased an old NH 275 from a guy just to get it out of his way for $100.00 about a $1,000 later I have a pretty fair baler. I baled a 103 bales yesterday and busted only 3. I am still having a little problem with a twine holder letting go of the twine when bales get tight,any hints on that. This baler set up for a while I have baled close to 2,000 bales so far but I didn't take the twine holders down and clean them. Thanks for the help.

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Garry

10-16-2003 17:31:47




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 Re: cured hay @ twine tension in reply to mike, 10-16-2003 08:11:49  
Letting go? or Breaking, is sometimes a result of bale tension too tight on slightly too damp of grass to let the twine 'slide' around the end of the bale as each 'pat, flake, slice,.. whatever your local lingo calls it' is made by the plunger. Letting go, need to tighten the twine discs/holder a tad, breaking (at the twine disc/holder), need to back off the bale tension a tad to allow the twine to slip around the bale as it is formed, (might also be the twine bracket a tad tight, not allowing the twine to feed out in conjunction with the extra tension of a 'tight' bale on grass that is too 'damp / green' -- if it is alfalfa - [don't have a clue! as I've never baled alfalfa]

3 misses out of 103 is 'rather good' or 'rather bad' depending on all the circumstances & baler/knotter conditions..... ..(if my NH273 missed that many, I would be getting 'irritated'.....if my Ford 542 'only' missed that many, I'd be smiling.. (was 'wore out' when I got it -- still have some knotter parts needing fixing/replacing -- consistantly will miss 1 out of 12 - 15, [could be partially 'operator error' though.....as I have put it in some 'demanding' situations in unknown pastures with irradic windrows & still learning it's tension settings]

As for 'cured vs. uncured'(grass), with my NH273 -- [once I get some grass in it (3 bales worth - to get the bale chamber loaded & tensioned)] & it misses tieing a bale not related to twine hanging up coming out of the twine box [end of twine ball tangles usually - as I transfer twine from one baler to the other to keep from having 'left overs' if that particular baler doesn't bale again..... . & less than half a ball seems to not hold together when tussled around & continue to feed out well] -- the grass is too damp/green to bale..... ...

As for best time of day to bale, [as referenced in the other posts].....myself (East TX - grass) - after the dew has dried off & before it starts to condence again..... .

Ya'll be careful baling up hay that is too damp/green..... ... (seems this year esp.. as lots of folks have tried to 'beat' the weather/rain) -- green/damp/uncured hay will 'heat' -- lots of barns/hay crops have been reduced to ashes..... ....(Jerry D. -- can give a 'visual' of what I am referring to!!)

Garry

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Jerry D in NC

10-17-2003 08:03:56




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 Re: Re: cured hay @ twine tension in reply to Garry, 10-16-2003 17:31:47  
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Sadly I can. I am not sure if this was wet when baled or got wet in the bale but this was a very nice horse facility that was full of the winters feed. Neighbor of mine in the mountains of NC



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Kennyp

10-16-2003 12:17:21




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 Re: cured hay @ twine tension in reply to mike, 10-16-2003 08:11:49  
Too early in the morning....too damp morning..... ..... ..... ..just right mid day..... ..... ..... ..too dry Evening..... ..... ..... ..just right again



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Tim(nj)

10-16-2003 13:16:09




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 Re: Re: cured hay @ twine tension in reply to Kennyp, 10-16-2003 12:17:21  
Where would this be true? In New Jersey, mid-day is just right, every time else is too damp. I know in Arizona they sometimes bale at night to keep the leaves on the alfalfa.



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Kennyp

10-16-2003 15:58:13




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 Re: Re: Re: cured hay @ twine tension in reply to Tim(nj), 10-16-2003 13:16:09  
Half way between New Jersey and Arizona..Colorado



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