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Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring

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Tony

10-11-2003 17:25:01




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OK, now what :-(? The HUGE spring that sets the amount of weight carried on the mower's shoes just snapped when I lifted the mower to clear a stump. The local farm stores say the part has long been unavailable. Anyone been able to cobble something using some sort of readily available standard spring? My budget is fishing line (not even enuf for shoelace), so even used mower is beyond reach, and I'm getting too old to go back to cutting my hay with a walk-behind.

Tired Tony.

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Wayne

10-29-2003 07:08:23




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 Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to Tony, 10-11-2003 17:25:01  
Boy; Am I glad I found you guys! Sorry, Tony, I can't help you with the (balance) spring, but I also have (just bought) a 515 mower and I can't get my Allis D15 to lift it completely. The hydralics are fine (it lifts my 6' Stan Hoist rotary mower). I'm missing the pin & spring assembly at the end of the chain on the curved bar (bell crank assembly) that the manual says attachs to the drawbar.
When I fasten the chain end to the drawbar, it seems to help, but not completely.
Any advice? Thanks.

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Tony

10-13-2003 09:30:00




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 Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to Tony, 10-11-2003 17:25:01  
Thanks for the various advice. I know it was a real toughie and I figured the chances were slim and none, and slim left town :-). The only spring on mine is the huge spring (the wire is over 1/8" dia & hard as hell), which starts at the upper left on the 3-pt hitch frame and attaches to a little lever arm on the mower frame near the drive head, on the lower right. Yeah, it pulls up on the mower head/arm so the full weight (heavy!) doesn't ride on the shoes. No farm implement boneyard within driving distance that I know of. Guess it's crazy-cobble time. If I figure something out that works, I'll post it. TNX guys for trying.

Tired Tony.

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paul

10-12-2003 08:56:41




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 Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to Tony, 10-11-2003 17:25:01  
I have seen used ones sell for $35 at auction. Kinda wore out/ parts missing, but all you need is the spring...

Be glad you didn't find a new one, you wouldn't be able to afford that either..... Did you try a NH dealer just for fun? I bet a good used mower sells for less than that spring would cost.

As always, when you go to an auction needing something, it will go 10 times what it's worth..... only cheap when you don't need it...

This would be the big spring on the upper 3 point arm, not the compression on at the bottom? (Not familiar with a 515 exactly, I know the 501's...).

As someone mentioned, lots of combines use big tentioner springs, if you have a junk yard nearby you can wander through....

--->Paul

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mfman

10-12-2003 17:54:24




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 Re: Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to paul, 10-12-2003 08:56:41  
The 515 I have doesn't have the spring on the top link hookup. It only has the one that holds tension on the bar when you pick the mower up. Its the one hooked to the pin that goes into the drawbar. As you lift the mower it keeps the bar from dipping down on the far end.



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paul

10-12-2003 18:41:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to mfman, 10-12-2003 17:54:24  
Quite a bit of difference then from the other Ford mowers I've seen. On the models I've seen that spring is horizontal under the back frame of the mower, and compresses to help lift the bar. Nothing hooks to the draw bar, a lever clamps to the left 3pt arm.

Sounds like your spring pulls.

In other words, I'm an idiot & shouldn't have replied to something I don't know about. :) Sorry for wasting your time. :)

--->Paul

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mfman

10-14-2003 11:36:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spri in reply to paul, 10-12-2003 18:41:30  
Paul, My spring is horizontal under the rear frame of the mower, but there is a metal bar hooked at the end of the spring that has a small chain and pin that hooks in the drawbar. I have to swing the drawbar to the right (facing rear of tractor) to hook the pin. With the bar up in the transport position, the chain and spring have no tension. Lower the bar, and the spring compresses and the drawbar mechanism tightens up. Hope I explained that OK, sounds pretty confusing even to me though.:)

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mfman

10-12-2003 17:51:04




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 Re: Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to paul, 10-12-2003 08:56:41  
The 515 I have doesn't have the spring on the top link hookup. It only has the one that holds tension on the bar when you pick the mower up.



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js

10-12-2003 07:29:00




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 Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to Tony, 10-11-2003 17:25:01  
here's a place you might try. I don't know anything about them. www.sickleservice.com



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ChrisL

10-11-2003 20:45:04




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 Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to Tony, 10-11-2003 17:25:01  
I have a 01 with that big spring -

I had used the mower a couple of years with a standard 3 point third arm not even using the spring - y just can't let the 3 point down all the way - worked OK

maybe a combine junkyard or an old ford dealer or a regular salvage yard may have these springs - they are a very common mower



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Norm

10-11-2003 19:45:55




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 Re: Ford 515 sickle mower balance spring in reply to Tony, 10-11-2003 17:25:01  
What size spring, and where did it break? Springs usually break at an end loop, which can be reformed using heavy pliers, vice, hammer, etc.,and rehooked. hardware stores and home centers have generic springs which can be reformed using the above methods.



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