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Russ(NC)

10-09-2003 07:28:44




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I'm in the market for a new/used disk to plow about ten acres with. Have used a 3-point 8-foot wide one in the past and found it did not plow deep enough. Have heard that a pull behind type goes much deeper and gives a better job (single pass). Will be cutting up old fields and maybe even some new ground (lots of clay). Need something heavy built (cat 2) to handle a lot of abuse. Will pull behind a JD 5310 (55 HP) tractor.

Need something 10 foot or less in width and able to withstand being left outside year round. Any suggestions on new or used models or makes.

Are scrapers worth adding to a disk or are they a maintenance nightmare?

Thanks

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Allen

10-14-2003 18:32:22




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
The local farmers around me have beautiful smooth fields. When they have picked the beans or wheat, they seem to either rip or plow the ground? If they are plowed they have no "hollows" or "furrows". I am curious how they prevent these problems? I plowed some acreage this year and now have a mess. I could explain what I did exactly if that would help?

Allen



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Indydirtfarmer

10-14-2003 03:43:53




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
3 pt. disc's aren't known for "deep cuting". They have their place. I have one (7') that we used in the garden, and some smaller vegitable fields. I've "replaced" it with a roto-vator. If you can afford one, there is your best "answer". I also have an 8'-6" JD RWA "transport" disc. It gets used with a 60 hp tractor. I put fluid in the tires, and when they're raised, it gets decent penetration. I like a smaller disc, than what the tractor WILL pull. That eliminates most of the wheelspin problems. If the ground is so hard that you can't work it, by all means, plow or chisel plow it first. I was a "hold-out" on the roto-vator. Now that I've got one, I am starting to really like it. One pass, and you're done. Are you going to work the ground every year? That would make a difference in what I'd invest.

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Dan

10-09-2003 21:31:47




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
I have a 7 foot JD model H offset disc. Does a good job of cutting but pulls hard when put clear down. It has wheels to move around or lift when you don't want so much cut. In our area even in fields that are not heavy sod most guys disc 3 or 4 times over a field going different directions then plow. With most any heavy disc on tough, old sod ground you will just cut it into strips the first pass. for best cut I would get an offset disc with large discs, sharpen the discs and set the largest angle you can

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Robert in W. Mi

10-09-2003 16:49:28




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
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The "only" tool that will come close to doing what you want in a single pass, is a rotavator!! "If" you learn how to use it, you then won't need a plow, disc, or any other tillage tool.

I have a "heavy" deere wheel disc, and it won't come close to doing what you want even in 2 or 3 pass'. I had a deere ofset disc for a while too, and although it was better, it made more of a mess than anything else!!!

I get jobs rotavateing ground for farmers who have a plow, disc, and other tools all the time!! Robert

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kyhayman

10-09-2003 16:25:53




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
How about a bog harrow and then a disc? Other posts are correct, single pass isnt happening with anything you can pull. I use a 12' IH disc harrow behing 65-85 hp and need at least 5 passes in good ground over a 30 day period to get it into good shape.



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Gary in TX

10-09-2003 13:29:06




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
Russ,
I pull a 12ft IH 37 disk behind a 3020 John Deere and it pulls it fine. Sometimes when going up grade or plowing real deep I have to gear down but for the most part does a fine job. It is a light weight pull type but it does do fair. Two passes usually do the trick if needed.
Are you wanting a 3pt or drag type??? Your question kinda leans both ways???



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Tom

10-09-2003 13:01:00




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
Russ, Evilboweivel is absolutely correct. It takes every bit of 10 PTO HP per foot of offset disk. The smallest real offset disk I have seen is 6 1/2 feet. I am looking for one for my 67 PTO HP tractor, which I expect will be loaded to the max to pull it. A pull type offset disk will plow about 5 to 6 inches deep and will work pretty good as primary tillage, as long as you go deeper with ripper, moldboard, etc. about one year out of three. Almost everyone around here use the pull type offset disks. In the larger sizes your have to slightly add to the formula: example a heavy 10 foot model will pull much better with 110 HP than 100. For your 55 HP tractor recommend 2 16 inch moldboards to deep break and then use the tamdem disk harrow to finish. A good model of older moldboard is th Massey Ferguson Model 74, with shear pin setup.

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evielboweviel

10-09-2003 12:08:23




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
you do not have enough power to pull a disk that will be cut out your wheel tracks, as long as you insist on one pass and deep. that will take a heavy offset disk, about 10 hp per foot to handle it. recomend a breaking plow and then use a conventional disk for as many passes as it takes to smooth the ground out.



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paul

10-09-2003 10:15:51




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 Re: Looking for Disk in reply to Russ(NC), 10-09-2003 07:28:44  
How could you disk clay without scrapers?

You have a tall order. Disks are not really a good primary tillage implement. You must be looking for a big heavy offset style, throw a bunch of weight on it and go.

Nothing new that you can afford will do what you want that I am aware of. Don't bother going to a TSC or such - those 3-point new units are lightweight.

Pull behind are just heavier, not really better. You can add weight to a 3-point, but again I don't know of anything heavy enough for your use.

Have you thought about a plow and a disk?

--->Paul

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