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Hay spikes for loader-which is best

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Danny

09-29-2003 11:17:44




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I am going to be stacking 4X5 round bales of hay three high on their ends. Which type of hay spear would be the safest to use to do this. Would it be the single type, double type or what. I know it needs to be the kind that directly attaches to the loader but I am not experienced to know which way to handle it the safest way. Thanks for any assistnace on this.




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bill in colo

10-01-2003 20:59:00




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 Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Danny, 09-29-2003 11:17:44  
If you stack bale on the flat side outdoors I would suggest that you use a bonnet on the top bale. Bonnets are available from the maker Kurt Frentress 970 276 3602 Hayden Co. Use a hugger or a graple on anything higher than two bales!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!



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Nebraska Cowman

09-30-2003 18:18:55




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 Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Danny, 09-29-2003 11:17:44  
i'm with the other guys. Don't go lifting bales over your head with a spear. They can come over bacwards, roll down the arms and crush you. Get a grapple.



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MK

09-30-2003 18:54:03




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 Re: Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-30-2003 18:18:55  
Had three neighbors within six miles from me do that in the last 15yrs. 1. came down his 2130jd-dead 2. came down on his 1494cih-squashed down to the floor boards and has lots of back trouble 3. came down on his 1650 cockshutt- got away in time because of the rear exit.



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jw57

09-30-2003 05:44:59




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 Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Danny, 09-29-2003 11:17:44  
I can't say what is the best-only what works for me. Unless you have agrapple or a very tall tractor, you probably can't get the last bale right.I have used a 6640 Ford and a 2550 John Deere to stack5X5 and 5x4 bales.Ican get two to lie flat and then put a third on normally.If you arestacking outside ,I would suggest a row of hay with the top sitting up to shed water. You will want to put some type of cover on it then to keep loss down to minimum. Please be careful what ever system you use as the tractor can easily tilt with bales on the front Especially high in the air! I would not use a narrow front end tractor nor a light tractor under 60-70 hp. I use a single type spear with two stabilizer spikes.

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Sid

09-29-2003 19:42:09




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 Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Danny, 09-29-2003 11:17:44  
We use the double spears and slide in under the bale after flipping it on end. I think the safest way would be one of those rigs that grip the bale. I have not used one but it seems there would be very little if any danger of loosing a bale with one of them.



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MK

09-29-2003 20:10:34




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 Re: Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Sid, 09-29-2003 19:42:09  
I would agree but to use a hugger or a grapple, you need a third remote which a lot of loader tractors don't have.



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thurlow

09-29-2003 19:29:19




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 Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Danny, 09-29-2003 11:17:44  
If you're gonna be stacking bales on their end, you will probably not be able to use a spear, given that you would be spearing the side of the bale and if it's baled "right", you won't be able to get the spear in it; better to use forks and go under the bales..... ..



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Jerry (Al)

09-29-2003 18:05:19




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 Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Danny, 09-29-2003 11:17:44  
Like the other gentleman said, I wouldn't think you would want to stack it on ends.



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MK

09-29-2003 13:21:03




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 Re: Hay spikes for loader-which is best in reply to Danny, 09-29-2003 11:17:44  
In my opinion, you need two teeth/spears to do it. Let the first two slide into place by tilting the fork down with the ldr raised to the right height, then set your third on the ground (end up) slide underneath and set it on top of the second...clear as mud?? Without a cover you will have much more spoilage with ends up.



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