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Phil - MO

09-29-2003 05:28:07




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I'm trying to redo all the fencing on 240 acres.
I have rocky areas here in the Ozarks where I can't drive in T-Posts.
Is there something out there that I can get to drill holes through rocks and rocky ground or?

I've been thinking of a small diameter post hole digger, but I have a medium duty Farm Star post hole digger with no down pressure. They do have an attachment for down pressure.

Any body else had this problem.

Phil

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Phil - MO

09-30-2003 09:04:25




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
Thanks for all the advice.

I checked at a well drilling supply last night and he will rent me an air compressor to pull behind the tractor and an air hammer drill. Looks like I need a drill bit about the size of the post, use the hammer drill and air down the shaft to blow out the hole. The post fits tight and will wedge into the hole as I drive it.
The only problem as I understand it, is that the air hole in the drill can plug with dirt and be a bear to unplug.
Costs $100 for eight hours on the hour meter. I'll stretch one wire, just drive what posts I can, and go back and drill holes for the others.
Only bad part is I'll need to cut a path the width of the tractor alongside of the fence for the compresser.
I wish I was about 10 years younger to drag this rig around.

Phil

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Hal/WA

09-29-2003 21:24:14




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
I have a lot better luck driving T-posts in the early spring, even before I dare drive a tractor around for fear of mud. Now would be a good time to distribute the posts though.

I do have some places where the bedrock is at the surface. The only way to set a post in the ground there would be with a jackhammer and big compressor, which is too expensive for me. I have used old steel barrels filled with loose rock in some of those areas. I wire a treated board to the side of the barrel as a nailer to staple the barb wire to. My guess is that any of those "posts" will outlast me and since I have a bunch of barrels, all it costs is time. And no cow is ever going to push one over!

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jls

09-29-2003 21:10:25




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
whichever way you do it, use Hi-tensil, you can really spread line posts out and use fibreglass stays in between. Also check out a "floating push"assembly for your corners. (Fencing pays for my farming habit)



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BILL

09-29-2003 18:17:12




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
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DRL

09-29-2003 17:35:22




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
I've seen a lot of fences out your way with piles of rocks enclosed in a hogwire cage for corner posts and then the rest of the posts held up by the wire. Doesn't look like the ideal setup, but I guess you got to work with what you have.



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Jerry/MT

09-29-2003 11:19:42




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
If you are using T-posts and don't have solid rock, you can dig a pilot hole with a digging bar and drive the post into the pilot hole. That's what I did on my place which has a lot of rock fragments on it. I also saw a post driver made in Austalia that thad a 3 inch steel device to drive pilot holes in rocky ground. I think it was called a Pierson Post Driver. Do a web search and maybe you can find it.

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Turtle

09-29-2003 09:37:53




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
I use a Hilti brand Hammer drill with a large bit. It will work you but end results are good. With bit at 2" and and depth at about 18" to 24", add alittle sac crete and your set. I also use a shop vac to clean out hole. The biggest draw back is the need to have a gen with you for power. The drill can also make bigger holes, you just have to make a series of out line holes then bust up the middle. I use a TE-72 that I got at the local pawn shop. LOL and be safe.

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Jimmy King

09-29-2003 08:41:32




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
Phil I'm at Ash Grove know all about the rocks The air driven T post driver will do a fairley good job it is slow. in lime stone the jack hammer is the only way to go, it will not work good in dirt as the air hole will plug up in the bit and shank. Go to the Farm Fest at the fair grounds in Spfd. this week end some one should be there with a air driver they used to be called Ovis Ram but they are called something else now I don't remember what. Farm Fest Oct.3,4,and 5

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Jim in michigan

09-29-2003 07:24:29




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
if you are redoing it, why not use the holes from the original posts? ,,,Jim



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Huckleberry

09-29-2003 06:55:02




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 Re: Fence Posts in reply to Phil - MO, 09-29-2003 05:28:07  
If you are going thru rock you can rent a construction air compressor, gas engine, and use an air drill---used to set dynamite charges in highway construction....this is fairly heavy labor...compare operating a jack hammer...but drills a hole about the size of a T-post ~ or...just set your T-posts in individual concrete boxes to hold them up. Both of these ideas could get expensive.



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kyhayman

09-29-2003 07:07:33




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 Re: Re: Fence Posts in reply to Huckleberry, 09-29-2003 06:55:02  
There are diggers that will dig into rock. Not sure the brand, guy over in the next county has one. He charges $100/hr gets 20/hr in soild rock. If loose rock usually can drive them anyway with a good driver. If it is ledge rock or solid rock you can use a jack hammer and drill a small hole, set the steel posts in it in concrete and for wood posts can drive in a short piece of angle iron, pour concrete around it and bolt your wood posts.

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