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Jim in michigan

09-28-2003 15:39:23




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Just hauled home a NH Crop Chopper 38, anyone know anything about these? Looks kind of like a flail mower chopper combo...Thanks,,,Jim




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Hugh MacKay

09-28-2003 17:32:40




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 Re: NH questions in reply to Jim in michigan, 09-28-2003 15:39:23  
Jim: A neighbor of mine made silage for quite a number of years with one of those. It isn't a measured chop like the forage harvesters. The other item of course is without some dry down silage tends to be quite rank smelling. He used bunker silos and the long chop was hard to level and pack. He used to have a lot of spoilage. I think this machine was a case of what his budget would allow at the time. I notice he has now gone to a mower conditioner and forage harvester.

I know another guy who had a forage harvester for his haylage and corn silsge. He used a NH 38 crop chopper for what we called zero grazing and feeding cows each day all summer. He said it made the job quicker each day than mower coditioner and forage harvester, plus it worked quite well in all kinds on weather. Another plus on this feeding schedule is you stop when you have a load. Not always possible if you mow ahead.

Both these machines seemed like long wearing reliable machines. The first guy I mentioned didn't like picking rocks, and since he was a neighbor I heard some quite awful noise by times. Not quite sure how the machine stood it. My opinion rock picking very important with this machine. But then that is the case with all silage type equipment.

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Jim in michigan

09-28-2003 19:12:26




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 Re: Re: NH questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-28-2003 17:32:40  
so does this thing cut the hay and then chop it somehow or does the hay have to be cut down first?,,,,,Thanks,,,,Jim



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paul

09-28-2003 19:53:28




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 Re: Re: Re: NH questions in reply to Jim in michigan, 09-28-2003 19:12:26  
I think it's a green-chop cuts down standing crops with a flail rotory head. My understanding is they don't work well for corn - ears drop down?

--->Paul



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JMS/MN

09-29-2003 09:20:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: NH questions in reply to paul, 09-28-2003 19:53:28  
Yup- you got that right. It is made for green chopping and direct feeding off a wagon, can also be used for chopping cornstalks after combining. Not intended for filling silo. Does ot cut fine enough to pack decent enough (get the air out)- so the feed spoils.



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Hugh MacKay

09-29-2003 02:36:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: NH questions in reply to paul, 09-28-2003 19:53:28  
Jim & Paul: The crop chopper will harvest everything but cob in corn. They do work reasonably well picking up stover for what ever reason behind the combine. They are basically a direct cut green chop for grass and legumes, and then really only good for direct feeding each day. Most of the material will be cut 3" to 6" long. It's bad news trying to spread it in a bunker silo. Just too wet for good silage. Old saying was farmers who ensiled it could be smelt 100' away, if they came to town during feeding season. I don't think a silo unloader would handle it in an upright.

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Jim in michigan

09-29-2003 07:17:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NH questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 09-29-2003 02:36:16  
Thanks,,i thought I could use it on some of my worse fields as green feed. done early in the season and then maybe these rotten fields could do some good,,I was thinking of chopping right onto a hay wagon since I do not have a chopper wagon. I am gonna hook it up in a few days if we arent snowed in and see how it works,,,,Thanks,,,Jim



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Hugh MacKay

10-01-2003 17:31:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NH questions in reply to Jim in michigan, 09-29-2003 07:17:22  
Jim: Don't talk snowed in, you aren't that far away. I see guys around here using those crop choppers, blowing it onto V shaped wagon boxes designed for the cattle to feed right from sides of wagon.



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Jim in michigan

10-02-2003 13:56:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NH questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-01-2003 17:31:44  
I tried it out day before yesterday,, it worked pretty good,but it snowed 3 inches yesterday so I cant finish the field for a few days,,snow is melting now though,,,Jim



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Hugh MacKay

10-02-2003 15:49:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NH questions in reply to Jim in michigan, 10-02-2003 13:56:42  
Jim: So you guys in MI sent that snow, we got this morning, along after you were done with it. And here today I was blameing the politicians, here in Ontario, today being election day. I better not say anymore, I got one old fellow quite riled this morning.



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