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Twisted off PTO will hoggin

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Paul (FLA)

09-12-2003 19:23:00




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I am a new TO30 owner. Picked up a heavy woods 5' hog. I don't have sway bars, so it does sway. I was bush hogging thick palmetto's and I wrenched off the end of the PTO. There is a slip clutch on the hog, but I have never serviced it.
In your opinion, was my problem the swaying, or the lack of slip in the clutch, or both, or the D%^$& palmettos?
If you can picture, driving over palmettos, it is like driving over potholes. You can imagine the sway, back and forth. I do have a bucket in the front, that I keep low, to push down the palmettos, It also lifts the front up, putting more weight on the rear tires where needed.
Do you think replacing the 1 1/8 shaft with a 1 3/8 shaft will add strength, to keep this from happening again? Do you all sharpen your hog blades often?
Appreciate help.
Paul

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Paul (FLA)

09-15-2003 05:14:24




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 Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Paul (FLA), 09-12-2003 19:23:00  
I removed all of the nuts on the clutch. I cannot get the plates to seperate. Banged on it for a while. Tried to pry them appart. I cant even get the springs to come off the bolts.
Soaked the whole thing with liquid wrench.
Any ideas?



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Gary in Geneva

09-14-2003 02:30:45




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 Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Paul (FLA), 09-12-2003 19:23:00  
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If you are trying to hog the trunks it may be too much for the equipment. It puts a big strain on it for sure. If these are small palmettos then you should not have a problem if you keep the blades above the trunks.

The best tool that I found for small palmettos is a pasture chopper. It is a mini version of a roller chopper. I had palmettos that had trunks that were 3 � 7 feet tall. Two passes of roller chopping (pictured) is what is needed to get them down to a level that I could handle.

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Paul (FLA)

09-15-2003 09:13:06




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 Re: Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Gary in Geneva, 09-14-2003 02:30:45  
Gary,
That is a monster machine!
That is exactly what I need for my palmettos.
You know exactly what I am going through because my property is about 10 miles north of yours, up 415 past Osteen,in Deltona.
I like the updates you have on the web.
Keep up the good work.
Paul



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Rusty

09-13-2003 18:35:20




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 Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Paul (FLA), 09-12-2003 19:23:00  
You need to loosen the bolt and slip the clutch yearly. Then tighten the bolts to spec. Good Luck



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Bus Driver

09-13-2003 04:42:43




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 Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Paul (FLA), 09-12-2003 19:23:00  
Another important matter with PTO is that the shaft on the tractor should be covered completely by the yoke of the driven shaft. I had a mower where the yoke onto the PTO shaft was very short and just held on the back end of the PTO. It twisted the PTO shaft- 1 3/8". I found a collar with the 1 3/8" internal splines and welded it onto the yoke to entend the length to cover the tractor PTO shaft completely. No more problem.

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TomH

09-12-2003 19:29:56




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 Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Paul (FLA), 09-12-2003 19:23:00  
A slip clutch should be opened up and oiled at least once a year. Otherwise the two parts will stick together and probably cause something else to break (like a pto shaft).



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Gary n TX

09-13-2003 20:20:41




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 Re: Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to TomH, 09-12-2003 19:29:56  
Oil a slip clutch, In my opinion that would be the wrong move too make. Just do like the other posts said and slip it once in awhile. I would think oiling them would ruin them to where you couldn't get any cutting much at all.
Hold the oil!!!!!



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Paul (FLA)

09-12-2003 19:35:24




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 Re: Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to TomH, 09-12-2003 19:29:56  

Do I completely dis-assemble? What torque is applied when re-assembling?



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TomH

09-13-2003 05:13:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Paul (FLA), 09-12-2003 19:35:24  
I just back off the bolts until I can pry the two pieces apart to be sure they're not stuck. I prefer to put it back together a bit loose and experiment in some heavy grass to be sure it slips, then tighten it down a little at a time until you can mow without slipping. As others said, the length of the shaft is important to make sure it has enough movement without jamming or pulling apart as the mower and tractor go over bumps.

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paul

09-12-2003 22:24:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Twisted off PTO will hoggin in reply to Paul (FLA), 09-12-2003 19:35:24  
Yes, service the slip clutch. That should slip be4 anything breaks.

The spec's should be in the manual.
Manuals are a good thing.

--->Paul



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