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Deep tillage with a subsoiler

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JC

09-08-2003 22:04:35




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I have recently come into possession of 160 acres that was "rode hard and put up wet". The whole place is a virtual hardpan with extremely compacted soil.
I plan to rip it 12 to 14 inches and don't have the horses to pull anything that goes that deep, so I plan to rent or hire it done.
As I plan my fall budget, what can I expect for costs for custom tillage of this sort? Tractor and machinery rent...
Any useful suggestion to reduce the compaction will be much appreciated!

Thanks for your help.

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smirkey

09-09-2003 12:20:16




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 Re: Deep tillage with a subsoiler in reply to JC, 09-08-2003 22:04:35  
i never personally tried this, but read alot about non-horsepower methods of soil improvement and reducing problem compaction. for ewxample you can plant specialized crops with deep rooting capibilities to break hard pan. you can no til these and let the soil rest awhile. you can incorporate green manure crops and cover crops to build organic matter and increase worm populations. they also distribute nutrients from deep down up into the root zone. if you can afford to put it into permanent hay or pastrure for a few years, that works wonders. you can look more closely at the soil type, composition, soil test for calcium/magnesium& CEC rating before you decide to mechanically physically break the soil up. actually every region and soil type,and climate is different so try consulting with a soil scientist / crop advisor who specializes in your type of problem. read a copy of Acres USA or other new age conservation newspapers theres lots of new ideas emerging about soils management. take care of it, good soil is a limited resource. some say anhydrous ammonia and other harsh N sources may contribute to soil compaction. just my opinion.

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Chris

09-09-2003 08:00:52




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 Re: Deep tillage with a subsoiler in reply to JC, 09-08-2003 22:04:35  
Make sure you are getting at least one inch below the hardpan, otherwise you will be wasting your time. Try a penetrometer or if you can't get one of those use a spike or dig down a couple feet and check the soil layers to find the depth of the compaction. I just ripped and my compaction layer ended at 16 inches so I ran the ripper at 17 inches.
To reduce the compaction? DON'T work it wet!



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Gary The Rookie Farmer

09-09-2003 19:15:25




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 Re: Re: Deep tillage with a subsoiler in reply to Chris, 09-09-2003 08:00:52  
Probably a dumb question but what does compacted soil look like?



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Sid

09-09-2003 20:13:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Deep tillage with a subsoiler in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 09-09-2003 19:15:25  
The best way I can describe it is look at a tractor track. You will notice water standing on compacted soil when it will soak into soil that is not compacted. A cow path is another example of compacted soil. Hope this helps a little bit.



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