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Kelly C

09-05-2003 10:59:13

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OK I am in the market for a NH haybine 7 footer.
You guys are scaring the crap out of me with the wobble box talk. Could some one explain the wobble box what it does and how you know if its good or not?

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Steve from New Holland

09-06-2003 04:37:33

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Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Kelly C, 09-05-2003 10:59:13

Ok, the wobble box is the device that drives the sickle knife assembly back and forth about 1600 times a minute. All mower conditioners have one. To check if any box is good or bad, simply grab a hold of the arm that attaches the knife assembly and see if it has play in it or not. All arms, regardless of the brand should be solid. No movement unless the drive to the box is also moving. Kelly, most 474-489's have been updated. However, there could be some out there yet that have the old one on. Steve

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Kelly C

09-06-2003 05:23:27

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Re: Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Steve from New Holland, 09-06-2003 04:37:33

Thanks steve.
I plan on adding a 7 foot haybine and a older round baler to the stable this fall.

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TP from Central PA

09-05-2003 15:55:05

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Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Kelly C, 09-05-2003 10:59:13

I think the whole wobble box issue is blown way out of proportion..... ...The local salvage yard buys alot of haybines at consignment sales and it is very rare that any come in with a bad box. It is just like buying anything else used(tractor, truck, baler, etc.)..... ..... I wouldn't get to worked up over it. We traded a 560G for a NH 489 this spring, never seen it work.....Brought it home and mowed 20 acres of alfalfa for the neighbors..... .It and the 706 moved right along. We could keep up with the neighbors 766D and NI 5209 Discbine. I wouldn't take nothing other than a 489 now! It is a shame since we are getting rid of our hay equipment.

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Ridr

09-05-2003 13:24:01

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Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Kelly C, 09-05-2003 10:59:13

I can't explain but I want to know too !!

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Wayne in Pa

09-05-2003 13:49:37

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Re: Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Ridr, 09-05-2003 13:24:01

The wobble box is the divice that changes rotary motion into recipocal motion to drive the cycle blade. I din't know how to tell if their good or bad until they quit. (eather they work or they don't).

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Kelly C

09-05-2003 13:59:40

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Re: Re: Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Wayne in Pa, 09-05-2003 13:49:37

Bone up time for me. I need to learn about this. If a smart guy did know his wobble box was getting ready to bail out. Thats when he would sell and woah is me if I purchased it.
I can figure out the reels you can see that.
But a $1000 wobble box would be a budget killer.
Also the wife would ride my butt no end. She would be pissed enough just for me buying it.
" You all ready have a mower but NO you had to have one of these fancy dancy things. Now where are you?"
I just cant have that.

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Bill

09-05-2003 15:19:25

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Kelly C, 09-05-2003 13:59:40

Kelly,

I am mulling the whole haybine deal too. I let a nice 7' IH 990 slip by for $500 this spring.

The budget rules in this mostly non-profit hobby.

Another concern I have with haybines is that in my fields, there is always a groundhog hole where you don't expect it. What happens to one of these haybines when the center of the cutter bar plows into that? A sickle bar should trip back when it hits an obstruction - or so I think.

Nice thing about a sickle bar is that they are cheap, reliable and easy to fix.

Another low cost item is a crimper or tedder. They too appear to me to be cheap, reliable and easy to fix.

Sooooo, what to do!

Bill

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JIMVA

09-05-2003 17:34:16

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Bill, 09-05-2003 15:19:25

when u get to the ground hog hole raise the haybine up a to where it goes over the hole and then set it back down after u pass, no brainer, most ppl have junk haybines by just going to the field setting the haybine down and goin and never look back at the thing untill something breaks or flies apart, i look back more then i look forward when when the haybine starts to not throw hay out the back, i stop and back up a foot or so the clog gets pushed thru, unlike my other neighbor who goes down the field about 90 feet and has to dig the clog out with his hands.

i baled a gentlemans 30 acres last week, and he said he was amazed and really enjoyed working with me, becasue i kept a close eye on the equipement while i was running it, and he wonders why his haybine and baler stay in the shop 75% of the summer

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hey kelly

09-05-2003 15:14:28

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to Kelly C, 09-05-2003 13:59:40

you should get that baler for sale in the photo ads.lol i think its the same as ur's

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Kelly C

09-05-2003 15:40:31

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Haybine questions NH in reply to hey kelly, 09-05-2003 15:14:28

That 268? $900? Nope not me. It might be worth it but my personal limmit on any square baler is $250
Heck you can pretty much fix any baler and make it run for $300 in parts. That = $550. Why would I pay 9? I paid $50 for my 268 but its not any where near as nice as that one.

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