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What is the difference between a NH 68 NH 268

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Bill

08-19-2003 11:29:08

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Can anyone tell me the differences between the NH 68 & NH 268 balers?

Thanks!
Bill

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Steve from New Holland

08-20-2003 04:39:11

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Re: What is the difference between a NH 68 NH 268 in reply to Bill, 08-19-2003 11:29:08

Bill, these 2 balers are quite a bit different. The 68 is a "high back" feeder type and the 268 is a "flat track" feeder type. The 68 is about 10 years older. The 68 was a teriffic old baler, but as a service man, I would prefer the 268. The "flat track" feeder on the 268 is definately higher maintaince, but at the same time, it is easier for a farmer to maintain by himself. I disagree slightly with the notion that the 268 does not bale as fast as the 68. More than likely, the pickup belt was slipping for the gentleman that said the 268 can't bale. I believe if both balers are setup correctly, they would be pretty close. Steve

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Nebraska Cowman

08-19-2003 17:08:48

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Re: What is the difference between a NH 68 NH 268 in reply to Bill, 08-19-2003 11:29:08

the 68 is a good baler but they are 40+ years old. fixed up like Kelly's it will eat hay all day long. the 268 is junk, they have no capacity.

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no capacity?

08-19-2003 18:32:06

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Re: Re: What is the difference between a NH 68 NH in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 08-19-2003 17:08:48

well i am by no means an expert but my 268 seems to proccess plenty of hay, the only baler around this area that i know of that will take considerably more is a neighbors NH 320, i never knew the 268 was considered low capacity, in heavy windrows the thing will put out bale after bale while moving along at a good rate

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Kelly C

08-19-2003 15:51:07

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Re: What is the difference between a NH 68 NH 268 in reply to Bill, 08-19-2003 11:29:08

I have one of each ,but I am by no means an expert.
That would be Steve from New Holland or NHbaler guy.
I can tell you this though. The 68 has wood bearings on the plunger wile the 268 has roller bearings on the plunger. The feeder tines are completely different. The 268 is run off of belts
Wile the 68 is run off a chain and needs to be timed. It looks like the plunger arm is a little bit longer on the 268. Maybe its a little bit higher copacity. Not sure though as I havent run my 268 yet. The pto shafts are different. Real short on the 268. I will post some photos.
Here is the 68 1st.

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Here is 268-kelly c

08-19-2003 15:52:50

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Re: Re: What is the difference between a NH 68 NH in reply to Kelly C, 08-19-2003 15:51:07

Here is the 268

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Loren

08-19-2003 18:22:51

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Re: Re: Re: What is the difference between a NH 68 in reply to Here is 268-kelly c, 08-19-2003 15:52:50

Kelly, is the shaft going to the rear just to drivr the thrower? Never have seen a thrower yet.

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JMS/MN

08-20-2003 01:22:48

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Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference between a N in reply to Loren, 08-19-2003 18:22:51

I'm not Kelly, but the answer is yes, and the difference between a 268 and 269 is basically the pto shaft. The 268 has a two knuckle design(?), while the 269 has a third knuckle with a longer hitch. Dumb engineer that set this up- must think tractors are about 40 inches wide. Either way, it is hard to offset the tractor enough to not run over the windrow, and keep the pto halfways in line with the baler. Think about it- the tractor needs to be offset to the left to miss the windrow, or run over it only a little, while the pto runs at an angle to the right: and when you bale and follow a windrow around the field, making right-hand turns, you cramp the pto even further at an angle, thus making it "knucker"! (bad sound). That's why you can make left-hand turns without making the driveline rumble, but going right-hand- it sounds like all is breaking loose. Thank those well-paid engineers for that one. By the way, stupid engineer- the 269 pto line is not much better! It still knocks on a 90 degree turn- like the one we make when we cut hay around the field.

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Bill

08-20-2003 19:21:37

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference between in reply to JMS/MN, 08-20-2003 01:22:48

How does the PTO/tongue set-up compare between the 268 & 68?

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Bill

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IanC

08-20-2003 18:13:24

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference between in reply to JMS/MN, 08-20-2003 01:22:48

I agree with Jason, and can add that most farmers are their own worst enemy when it comes to PTO shafting. After working at 2 different dealers one Oliver/Hesston/New Holland, and one Ford/New Holland I can't tell you how many PTO's we had to pull apart using a post and the fork lift because nobody had greased the sliding part since it left the factory.

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Jason

08-20-2003 06:45:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference between in reply to JMS/MN, 08-20-2003 01:22:48

Ok, gotta stick up for my profession just a little. Lots and Lots and still lots of stuff gets blamed on product engineers. While I agree completly that the pto shafts on 268 balers suck (I own one), I don't agree that overpaid engineers are the only culprit. Many, many times manufacturing wants something so fast that they will just simply ignore what the "stupid" and "overpaid" engineers specify for a piece of equipment and just use a pto shaft from another line of equipment, without understanding the problems that may occur. Don't get me wrong product engineers make our share of mistakes, but we aren't to be blamed every time something doesn't work. Engineers don't run company's, manufacturing does.

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JMS/MN

08-21-2003 01:02:05

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference bet in reply to Jason, 08-20-2003 06:45:56

Irregardless of who takes the blame or passes the buck, the customer (farmer) is stuck with what all of you put out. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon (combo of a rocket scientist and brain surgeon= really smart guy) to figure out that tractors are not 40 inches wide, and the pto driveline will not match up to the tractor decently. Hook a 268/269 behind a D17/3020 and bale with it; try replacing a chain on a sprocket that could be mounted with another quarter inch of clearance, so you don't need to rotate the shaft to get the chain on, etc....ad nauseum. Thirty years of REAL experience maintaining equipment with some really stupid designs- or lack of it.

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Eric Rylander

08-19-2003 19:31:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference between a N in reply to Loren, 08-19-2003 18:22:51

Kelly,

What are you going to do with all those balers???

Eric

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Kelly C

08-19-2003 20:40:49

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference between in reply to Eric Rylander, 08-19-2003 19:31:02

Well last winter I rebuilt the 68. This winter if I get my 300 done I will rebuild the 268. Then I can have one with a thrower and one with out depending on my needs. Besides the 268 only cost me $50, so why not?

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Eric Rylander

08-20-2003 03:41:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference bet in reply to Kelly C, 08-19-2003 20:40:49

I recall we bought an Allis 303 from an implement dealer in Albany (MN) for $200 when I was in high school, I baled a lot of hay but had I replaced a few worn chains etc. it would have done better.

I notice you can get balers a lot cheaper than rakes, rakes are the most expensive old haying equipment.

Eric

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Kelly C

08-20-2003 06:27:08

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the difference in reply to Eric Rylander, 08-20-2003 03:41:50

I think you are right. Good rakes cost alot. I had to pay $600 for my old NH55 this summer. Well worth it to me. I think you can still get some off brand ones and some real real old ones that will work cheap.
I am sure some of these farmers around here think I am crazy. They are pulling thier new $15,000 disk bines with thier $30,000 tractor wile I am putzing around with my old H and a #5 mower.
I have maybe $3,000 in all of my equipment including fixing them.
Then again I am not trying to make a living with it. I feel sorry for the guys who have to do it. Every thing cost so much and you get so little for the crop.
I wonder if thats how its going. Big corp farms and every one else doing it as a hobby?

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