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NH 853 VS. Vermeer 504I

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TomT

08-17-2003 12:39:35




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Cost of NH is $1700 less Than 504I. Strictly for grass hay that will be stored inside for my own cows use. Have been having mine baled on halves but this summer no one has found time for me. Which will benefit me the most and why. NH cost $2350 and Vermeer is $4000. Which is easiest for a novice to run using 65hp tractor.




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Big Jim

08-18-2003 08:44:30




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 Re: NH 853 VS. Vermeer 504I in reply to TomT, 08-17-2003 12:39:35  
Since these are both used balers you are looking at, you should be looking at the condition of the balers first. If I am not mistaken, a New Holland 853 is a late model chain type baler with air bag suspension. $2,350 seems like a cheap price for that model. What's wrong with it? In our area, that model still brings $4-5,000 in good shape. $4,000 is also low for a 504 Super I. I would investigate both balers closer. Sometimes a "good buy" isn't such a good buy after you get done fixing every thing the last guy broke.

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Clem

08-17-2003 21:54:07




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 Re: NH 853 VS. Vermeer 504I in reply to TomT, 08-17-2003 12:39:35  
Well Tom, with the information supplied it's impossible say which is the best buy. Try to find someone locally who is experienced with round balers who can give you some help selecting a baler, even if you have to pay for it. Buy the brand that has the best dealer support. Since, 1979 I've owned seven round balers red, green and yellow and a good dealer is a must with me. I run a Vermeer 604XL because the dealer is excellent. This is very important when you break down Saturday afternoon with hay on the ground. After you buy your baler get someone who knows that make and model to spend a couple hours with you in the field showing you how to run it even if you have to pay, it will be money well spent.

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Aaron

08-17-2003 16:15:02




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 Re: NH 853 VS. Vermeer 504I in reply to TomT, 08-17-2003 12:39:35  
I have never ran a New Holland baler before, but I own a 505 SuperI baler and I love using it. I bale about 1000 bales a year, and I have never gotten it plugged yet. I rake 3 nine foot swaths together, and with a 4020 deere diesel on the front it will eat hay as fast as you want to go in the field. As of now, I would only buy Vermeer if I was to buy another baler. My 2cents worth.



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Rob

08-19-2003 13:56:41




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 Re: Re: NH 853 VS. Vermeer 504I in reply to Aaron, 08-17-2003 16:15:02  
Here's my slant on your choice. I've used a Vermeer for about 20 years. I bought it cheap because the owner knew nothing about it, couldn't make it tie and blamed it on Vermeer. It's never given me any trouble ( It helps to read the manual! ). It's slow going, what with backing up and the manual tie but what's the rush? It makes decent enough bales - the stock haven't refused to eat them yet. I figure the company that first developed and marketed the round baler is worth sticking with - it works for me.

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ol George

08-19-2003 20:37:39




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 Re: Re: Re: NH 853 VS. Vermeer 504I in reply to Rob, 08-19-2003 13:56:41  
Not a real fair comparison, the NH is a big baler and the Vermeer is a 4*5 but having had a Nh 848 (smaller version of 853)traded it for a V 504L several neighbors went and bought the I series. I recommend the Vermeer it eats hay and our NH just sheered pickup bolts.



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