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Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big enough for

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Bob G

08-15-2003 06:46:31




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I have an IH #27 baler that is pto drive. My only tractor is a IH M, since it doesn't have live power I am looking at possibly putting an engine on it. Would the two cylinder Wisconsin be big enough? I found one that has 10 hp that came off a JD #14T that I can get.

any help appreciated.

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Bob G




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Noly

08-16-2003 02:22:13




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 Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big enough in reply to Bob G, 08-15-2003 06:46:31  
had an Uncle that had a add on live power clutch added to his M back in the 50s. Believe it was made by M&W Are they still available? have to agree with the others pony motor would be more trouble and money than what it is worth. Takes a little time and patience but you can bale without it.



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Ron

08-15-2003 11:59:21




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 Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big enough in reply to Bob G, 08-15-2003 06:46:31  
It is sad to see that if a tractor does not have every modern convienience, it will not be used..... !!! Who says you can't use that "M" for baleing--just because it has no live power..??? Use the darned thing...you will only become a Better operator....!!!! The "M" has plenty of power, so you won't have to worry about running out of power--and you will learn to "slip gears"....!!!



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moonlite

08-15-2003 17:22:02




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 Re: Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big eno in reply to Ron, 08-15-2003 11:59:21  

You will also learn to rake



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my NH 66 baler

08-15-2003 08:09:42




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 Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big enough in reply to Bob G, 08-15-2003 06:46:31  
has a Wisconsin 2 cylinder that's rated at 23 horses. It runs well, but will choke on big wads. Not sure if that's helpful info for you or not, but figured it was some info.

FYI, I ran a couple of PTO balers with my 8N...no live pto. As jal-SD said, you get used to working that way so live PTO isn't really essential.

Tom A



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tlak

08-15-2003 10:06:36




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 Re: Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big eno in reply to my NH 66 baler , 08-15-2003 08:09:42  
I would think your two cylinder is rated about 14-18hp and the four would be in the twenties.



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you may be right

08-16-2003 10:14:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big in reply to tlak, 08-15-2003 10:06:36  
I thought I had a reference that said 23 hp, but now I can't find it anywhere...may have been at the shop where I bought magneto parts, but I wouldn't swear to it now.

tom a



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jal-SD

08-15-2003 07:23:08




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 Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big enough in reply to Bob G, 08-15-2003 06:46:31  
I wouldn't waste the time or $$$ to put a pony motor on a baler if your only problem is no live power. A pony motor will give you WAY MORE trouble than its worth! Your M has enough power to run the baler, pull itself & pull a bale wagon. You'll learn when to slip it out of gear when you see a slug comming after you plug the baler only once or twice. Those IH tractors w/o live power ran balers (& LOTS of other PTO equipment, including combines) for many many years before IH got smart enough to add live power to them. You'll know how to use it w/o LPTO by the end of the first day. Live power is nice, but you can live with out it-lots of farmers did for years! (My $0.02 worth. jal-SD)

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yup-- Kelly C

08-15-2003 19:18:28




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 Re: Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big eno in reply to jal-SD, 08-15-2003 07:23:08  
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Same here. I used my H on a NH68 this year.
There is no big deal at all using a H or M with a baler. You can tell when the feeder is going to get full. You just push in the clutch and take it out of gear. The Fly wheel on the baler keeps the baler running long enough for you to let the clutch back out.
As for starting again the feeder is empty so you can take all the time you want.
It will take you about 15 min to get it figured out.

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paul

08-15-2003 11:49:15




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 Re: Re: Is a two cylinder Wisconsin engine big eno in reply to jal-SD, 08-15-2003 07:23:08  
I was going to write what Jal said, I agree. An M is pretty strong, while live pto would be _nice_ you should do ok with the power of an M on it, and have less trouble in the long run than a pony motor will give you.

If you had a smaller tractor I'd see it, but with a strong M, just bale.

Also my 2 cents worth & I'm overcharging... ;)

--->Paul



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