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Knotters on New Holland 68

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Andy

08-11-2003 10:09:43




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Hello all,

I am in the process of getting a 68 running again, but I have a problem. The shaft on the knotter assembly wore out and created a situation where the knotter clutch would disengage with the needles fully inserted into the bale chamber (much to the plungers dismay).

Any who I ran out to my salvage yard (father-in-laws farm) and recieved a full knotter assembly. When he gave it to me he was talking about how there were two different types of knotters available for the 68, one would handle the nylon twine and the other would handle the older style twine. He wasn't sure what the knotter assembly he gave me would handle.

My question is how can I tell which is which? Is the old style twine still available (the hay will be stored indoors.)? Any other insight to the situation would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Andy

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Farmer Gene (WI)

08-12-2003 12:28:48




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 Re: Knotters on New Holland 68 in reply to Andy, 08-11-2003 10:09:43  
look at the groove in the billhook where the billhook tongue is, if it's multi-twine there will be a depression at the end of the groove, if it's sisal, the groove will be a uniform depth.



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Tom A

08-12-2003 05:28:22




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 Re: Knotters on New Holland 68 in reply to Andy, 08-11-2003 10:09:43  
Just my opinion, but I use sisal because it will rot quickly in a compost pile and it won't hurt a curious animal who swallows some.

When I bale, it seems there's little scrap pieces (and some big pieces on occasion, too) of twine that gets scattered all over the place. I'd rather have the sisal than the plastic which doesn't rot or at least not quickly...I'm still pulling up lengths of it out of the soil from the last guy to farm my place and he left about 12 years ago.

I just bought two bales of sisal at Tractor Supply for $19.

Tom

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Steve from New Holland

08-11-2003 18:34:47




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 Re: Knotters on New Holland 68 in reply to Andy, 08-11-2003 10:09:43  
Andy, the knotters are basicly the same. If the parts look like they have been on the knotters for quite some time, I would probably use sisal twine. I really do like plastic twine, but I must confess, the knotters are a tad trickier to get set up properly. Plus, the plastic twine does not like some of the older bill hooks and knife arms. Steve



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Jerry A.

08-11-2003 12:33:44




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 Re: Knotters on New Holland 68 in reply to Andy, 08-11-2003 10:09:43  
Your baler should work with either one. I've got an old Super 68 that works just fine with plastic twine. I tried using sisal twine when I first bought the baler and had problems...but it had nothing to do with the twine. I had duck bill and knife problems. I just never tried the sisal again.

I read a while back in Farm Show magazine that a knotter expert recommended plastic twine for knotter problems.

You can bought both types at most any farm store.

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Rob

08-11-2003 11:17:43




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 Re: Knotters on New Holland 68 in reply to Andy, 08-11-2003 10:09:43  
The "older" twine is called sisal up our way. No problem finding it in Canada. Best thing about it is it rot down unlike the plastic twines if your feeding whole bales. Of course, it will also rot in a stack over time. I can't say anything about different knotters on NH balers. My JD and MF will tie either. In the early days (50's/60's), that's all we had or used-I don't remember plastic back then.

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