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504C twine wrap help?

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ksbob

07-29-2003 07:57:58




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I have a Vermeer 504C (closed throat) baler that doesn't seem to wrap the twine tight enough around the bales - especially on the ends. The end wraps seem to slide off the end which is a pain. It has a manual twine wrap arm and I wrap about 3-4 turns on the end, wrap across, then 3-4 turns on the end and cut the twine. This is fairly dry grass hay I bale. The twine arm stops are set to start about 1/4 of the way in on the outside belt and end about 1/4 of the way in on the other outside belt. There is a small clip type thing on the twine arm that looks like it might have something to do with twine tension but I don't see how it would have any effect once the rollers grab the twine. What am I doing wrong to make the end wraps so loose? Like everyone I do have an occasional mushroom or barrel but for the most part the bales are nice and straight, and are tight enough it's hard to spike a few of them. I've thought of using sisal twine because it's not as slick as plastic (and plastic seems to never go away), but according to my neighbors it'll rot off before I can feed the bales so have avoided it for this reason.

So if anyone has any ideas of what I might adjust or tighten up to get more twine tension on the bale, I'd sure be happy to hear them.

Thanks in advance,
Bob

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Ken C.

07-29-2003 20:56:58




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 Re: 504C twine wrap help? in reply to ksbob, 07-29-2003 07:57:58  
I don't know the answer, but i have a 605G hydraulic tie and about half the time it does the same thing. The arm stops about 6 or 8 inches from the sides but sometimes the string will run off the side and make a mess.I don't know why it does it on some bales and not others when the arm goes in the same place everytime. I use grass string because the plastic never goes away and I beleive it will jump up so it can wrap around everything that turns. Just my thoughts, Ken.

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James in NC

07-29-2003 11:16:26




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 Re: 504C twine wrap help? in reply to ksbob, 07-29-2003 07:57:58  
Try more wraps on the ends and just before you cut the twine run the arm to the center of the bale and then to the knife. By the way I have made several new knifes for C balers that use a heavy duty carpet knife blade like the new balers. I mounted a "U" shaped piece of steel were the sickle section is and put the knife in the bottom part of the "U". To hold the knife in place I bolted a small piece of flat steel on top of it. Take a pipe wrench to the field when you test it, as the arm that holds it up might need some adjusting.
James

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JD-Tractor in NY

07-29-2003 21:16:36




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 Re: Re: 504C twine wrap help? in reply to James in NC, 07-29-2003 11:16:26  
Hey guys,
Best cure is don't run the twine so close to the ends of the bale.keep it a foot from the ends and put a little more tension on the twine where it comes out of the box ,worked for a Vermeer dealer many years.



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