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New Holland 271 bailer

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John K

07-28-2003 17:35:05




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Just purchased a 271 bailer, The plunger stop engages when trying to manually turn the flywheel. I have tried the method that Kelly C recommends and all things are with in the what he says. I was wondering if the needle yoke rod could have turned on the shaft that attaches to the shaft that the knotters are on. The New Holland dealer says that it is a friction fit and that it does not have a keyway. Is this so? Also looking for a manual for a 271, the dealer says that it could take up to a year to get.

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Gary in TX

07-29-2003 15:15:23




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 Re: New Holland 271 bailer in reply to John K, 07-28-2003 17:35:05  
Hi John,
Sounds to me like you are having problems with the brake holding the needle frame up when it is in the home position. There should be about a 5 or 6 inch disc on the knotter shaft with two friction brakes on it(one on each side). If this is not holding the needles up then your safty stop will engage. I read the posts earlier but don't remember what everyone else said but I just thought I would throw that in. Sounds to me like you just have a simple problem. I could be way off however. I bet ya I can get ya a manual for it way sooner than a year.

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Steve from New Holland

07-28-2003 17:58:01




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 Re: New Holland 271 bailer in reply to John K, 07-28-2003 17:35:05  
John, I must confess that I am not sure of your question. Do you want to time the baler? If so, please go to one of my replies just a little further down the page. I forget which one, but it won't be more than a page away. Also, nothing on the knotter shaft is friction driven. The cast arm that the needle yoke rod fastens to is clamped to the shaft, but there is a keyway in it. Steve



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John K

07-28-2003 20:08:30




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 Re: Re: New Holland 271 bailer in reply to Steve from New Holland, 07-28-2003 17:58:01  
Yes I am trying to time the baler as it was and still out of time, (meaning that I have a problem with the plunger stop being activated). An other question is when setting the timing, is the trip arm supposed to be in the home (down) or knot (up) position. I am relearning the terminaligy as it has been 35 years since I worked on my fathers farm.



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Steve from New Holland

07-29-2003 04:36:38




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 Re: Re: Re: New Holland 271 bailer in reply to John K, 07-28-2003 20:08:30  
John, the trip arm must be down. But I must clear something up. If the needles are part way up in the bale chamber and the flywheel shearbolt breaks, and you decide you want to check timing, it is NOT, I repeat, NOT quite good enough to just pull the needles back as far as you can pull them and assume you have the needles in home position. You need to do one of two things: 1.Manually continue forward rotation of the knotters/needles till they go all the way around and come back home AGAINST THE KNOTTER STOP or, 2. With the trip arm held up, pull the needles back past home position untill the needles drop back down alittle bit. Then push the trip arm down and rotate the needles/knotters forward untill they come against their stop. This is true home postition and the baler may be timed with the marks at this time. Steve

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paul

07-29-2003 01:23:51




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 Re: Re: Re: New Holland 271 bailer in reply to John K, 07-28-2003 20:08:30  
Check your email.....

--->Paul



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