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Tedders or Crimpers

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John in IN

07-27-2003 07:00:45




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I am currently cutting hay (alfafa mostly) with a sickle mower and was wondering which implement(tedder or crimper) would help me dry down the best. Thanks.




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Jerry A.

07-28-2003 06:51:44




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 Re: Tedders or Crimpers in reply to John in IN, 07-27-2003 07:00:45  
I put up about 14-15 acres of alfalfa that is supposed to have grass mixed in, but this dry summer means that it's about 90-100% alfalfa only.

I've used a tedder two summers now. I ted the hay right after I cut it. When it's hot, it's dry in 1.5 days; it takes about 2-2.5 days if the temp doesn't get in the upper 80's. A conditioner would definitely help the thick stems of the alfalfa dry faster, but it will dry without being through the conditioner; it just takes longer, which can be trouble if you're worried about weather or have a lot of crop to deal with. I do it for a hobby, so it's not that big a deal. A conditioner has a lot more movin' parts to fix than a simple little two rotor tedder. Using a tedder means another pass over the field (more engine time and fuel, etc). But, it's really fun to see the hay get slung out behind the tedder...just nice to get extra seat time on the tractor.

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Jerry D in NC

07-27-2003 19:58:09




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 Re: Tedders or Crimpers in reply to John in IN, 07-27-2003 07:00:45  
John,

This is a very crop specific question. Grass hay requires a tedder but Alfalfa requires a crimper. I raise both and the way we approach a field is totally different. Grass hay benefits from the stirring and getting more exposure to the sun so stirring it up every day or so is a good thing. Alfalfa does not benefit from sun exposure because it fades it as it oxidizes. Alfalfa is a stemy crop that dries much better when the stem gets mashed. Tedding Alfalfa MUST be done with dew on and that also makes it suseptable to dirt being stirred up tedding. The dirt will stick to the damp plants and make dusty hay.

A MoCo works great but a crimper will do the same crushing that stem on Alfalfa and only exposing so much to the sun. We turn ours with a rake the second night and let it dry the next day and either rake two windrows together te next night or leave it and bale.

Grass hay, Tedder is great
Alfalfa, Stem crushing is best

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Errin OH

07-27-2003 16:02:06




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 Re: Tedders or Crimpers in reply to John in IN, 07-27-2003 07:00:45  
John, up until a few days ago I used both. The crimper should be used when or just after cutting. It crimps or breaks the stems to speed up the drying process. A tedder is typically used after some drying time. You roll hay over to let the underside dry (faster). I would let mine sit a day and then ted to turn it over and let the bottom side dry for a day. I just got a mower/conditioner but have yet to use it because of all the rain we're getting. Based on my experances with both, if I had to pick "one" I'd say the tedder would be the one I'd go for.

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Dan

07-27-2003 09:01:15




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 Re: Tedders or Crimpers in reply to John in IN, 07-27-2003 07:00:45  
having used both, we found the tedder to be faster and the faster you can get the hay stirred up so air can get around it, the better. Also, the tedder never clogged up or sheared the drive bolts. If the hay got wet, it didn't seem to hurt it much in running it through the tedder again, whereas the crimper was harder on the hay the second time around.



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Hay Dr

07-27-2003 10:43:41




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 Re: Re: Tedders or Crimpers in reply to Dan, 07-27-2003 09:01:15  
The mower conditioner will help you and not promote leaf loss. To use a tedder on alfalfa you will need to do it when the dew is in the hay so the leaves will not shatter. A tedder has it's place for legume crops but is a almost must in grass hay.



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John in IN

07-27-2003 18:27:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Tedders or Crimpers in reply to Hay Dr, 07-27-2003 10:43:41  
Thanks for the info. I am having a easier time locating tedders than crimpers. I am going to try a tedder and see how I get along. Thanks again for the info. I left another post on which tedder works the best. Prices seem about the same.



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Tom A

07-29-2003 11:40:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Tedders or Crimpers in reply to John in IN, 07-27-2003 18:27:03  
I discovered my crimper at a farm auction...wasn't even advertised. I paid $10 for it, hauled it home, oiled and greased it, replaced 2 springs (about another $5) and it is the best buy I've made in a long time. I've got one field of usually-stemmy grass that is in lowland and a tedder doesn't help it dry at all, but the crimper gets it dry in a day. If you can find one, grab it.

good luck,
tom

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