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field cultivator , power needed

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kydirtfarmer

07-25-2003 04:02:40




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You have to make it any way you can. I have a few golf courses, that give me quite a bit of work. Plowing under old rough's. Discing, tilling, and bush hogging. One that I do work for, is going to re-sod all their fairways this year. That's nearly 40 acres. Before they sod, the ground needs to be opened up a bit. The thought is tilling about 4" deep. I have been thinking about a field cultivator. I have a 60 hp tractor. How much of a cultivator could I pull? I would like to pull a culti-paker behind it, and I would like to buy something that could be used on other jobs.(It needs to be the right size to be able to pull it, setting deeper) The soil I,m going to be working with, is "engineered soil" that is mixed just for golf course construction. It will be the best working conditions possible. (I had suggested chisel plowing them much deeper, but there are irrigation lines criss-crossing the fairways)

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ted

07-26-2003 21:14:38




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 Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to kydirtfarmer, 07-25-2003 04:02:40  
A cultivator may work ok, but busting 4" of sod may be pushing it, especially if compacted, but then again, I don't know the soil, or how deep the grass/turf runs(sorry not a golfer). You may need to break it open with maybe an small old chisel plow with guage wheels, the trouble is that a chisel may not do to much good only running 4" deep, depends on shank spacing. Or maybe hit is deep once with the disk first would be better idea(if it's a small disk you might need to add some weight to help it dig). Then cultivate, and drag an old three bar harrow over it to smooth it out, then pack and seed.

Another unmentioned option may be to put a tiller behind the tractor. I'm not sure how wide of one you can run with 60 hp, maybe 6'. It may be slower to work it up, but will only take one pass for a fine bed without culmps of grass (too fine of bed??). Harrow to level if needed and pack and seed. You may be able to rig up something to pull the packer behing the tiller to avoid tire tracks (but it may take a few additional HP to pull it behind but probably not to much for as slow as you are going).

Good luck

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larry

07-25-2003 17:03:06




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 Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to kydirtfarmer, 07-25-2003 04:02:40  
we have a 10 ft glenco on a 70 hp 1650 oliver and used it to break sod neighbor had 14 ft on d 19 allis in loose dirt but needed duels to pull better



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Kenneth S.

07-25-2003 08:02:57




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 Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to kydirtfarmer, 07-25-2003 04:02:40  
Maybe check out>Link

Good luck, Kenneth

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kydirtfarmer

07-25-2003 07:49:39




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 Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to kydirtfarmer, 07-25-2003 04:02:40  
I am using the 60 hp tractor becouse of it's ease of transportation. I have a 4440, but it is somewhat harder to move from job to job. I was wondering if any one knew about a field cultivator in th 7' to 9' range. That would make it easier to move around on city streets. Most of the golf courses I'm working on, are in residential area's. The 2440 John Deere is as big as I can get into some of the area's I need to work on, also.

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Jerry D in NC

07-25-2003 10:05:49




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 Re: Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to kydirtfarmer, 07-25-2003 07:49:39  
Now I understand better. Unveferth makes one to fit orchards up to 10 foot. They make several widths. I have seen one of these and they look solid built. I have not seen one run. I keep dreaming about getting one some day. If you try one let me know how they work. I know there is a dealer somewhere in NC but I bet there is one closer to you than that

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kydirtfarmer

07-25-2003 10:25:28




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 Re: Re: Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to Jerry D in NC, 07-25-2003 10:05:49  
To Jerry D in NC, Thanks. That is just what the doctor ordered. I have an Unverferth grain cart, and am familiar with several dealers in the area, that handle their line. I will contact them as soon as I can. I'll let you know what happens. I make enough off of the golf courses, in about two months, to pay for all my "toys" during the rest of the year. I have to run around the clock, when they turn one over to me, but it is very much worth while. I have three courses to do this fall (Late Aug. and Sept) There is about 130 acres of fairway to work up, and about 45 acres of rough to plow under, and re-seed. Mobility, and compact size are most important. The best part is watching all the "city folk" stare at a plow in action. Most have never seen one work. Thanks again, Bill

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Jerry D in NC

07-25-2003 06:53:54




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 Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to kydirtfarmer, 07-25-2003 04:02:40  
I don't own one but these boys around me pull a 14 ft KMC with 100+ tractors. They have explained to me that speed is a requirement for the field cultivator to really work right. I have seen some fine fields when they are done with them. I would love to have a 6 - 7 ft one I could pull behind a 50 HP tractor.



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Shep VA

07-25-2003 07:24:49




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 Re: Re: field cultivator , power needed in reply to Jerry D in NC, 07-25-2003 06:53:54  
We run a 14 foot (I think) DMI tiger mate field cultivatior. It is going to depend on how far you let it go in the ground as to how much power it takes to pull it, but I would say you are on the light side for HP to pull anything like that. I pull mine at 4 to 5 MPH to make it work good and at 7 inches deep with 25 shanks digging you better have 150 + HP to keep it moving in our clay soil around here. The field culitvators do a really nice job and we have pretty much replaced our big batwing discs with the DMI coulter champ and the tiger mate, but it takes some power to move those machines. I run the Coulter champ 15 inches in the ground with 5 big MRD shanks and 4 lead shanks at 8 inches deep with coulters in the front and it takes all the 2150 Oliver 4x4 can muster sometimes running at 210 HP. But man what a nice job of loosening up the soil it does.

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