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john deere knotter???

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Tractor Dan

07-20-2003 18:09:27




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hello i have a question about my john deere 14t baler every so often it will not tie on the left side it always will miss two bales the take right off tieing again sometimes it will tie 35 40 bales sometime only 5 6 bales but always will miss 2 in a row any ideas would be great thanks
TD
ps if i have someone drive and i walk along side it seems it will never miss but that makes for a long day

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JB

07-22-2003 21:02:49




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 Re: john deere knotter??? in reply to Tractor Dan, 07-20-2003 18:09:27  
Hi, retrieve the strings that didn't tie. Compare the lengths. Is the first one to miss shorter than the 2nd miss? If the 1st is shorter then the problem is the twine end being help by the twine disk slipped out of the twine disk. Some knotters had shims that could be taken out of twine disk to hold twine tighter after they were worn.
Compare twine disk position with good side versus bad side. We had a JD 14T for about 1/2 season and it never missed a bale. Dad didn't like pickup so he traded for IH 46.

Good luck
Jb

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Dan

07-21-2003 07:24:07




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 Re: john deere knotter??? in reply to Tractor Dan, 07-20-2003 18:09:27  
Easiest way to fix it would be to get wife/girlfriend (but not both) to drive tractor and walk along beside. If it misses 2 bales together I would suspect the twine is not being picked up and held by twine discs. Check to see how much clearence there is between needle at top and discs. Also Check height needle comes up at top of stroke. An operator's manuel willtell you what these figures should be. Other thing is timeing issue on discs. NOt sure how the JD ones work but lots of them can be rotated slightly. If you loosten up nut on top of disc and tap on bolt it whould turn one way or the other. I wuld suggest getting an operator's manuel as they really help on trouble shooting knotter problems.

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no.46

07-21-2003 07:45:52




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 Re: Re: john deere knotter??? in reply to Dan, 07-21-2003 07:24:07  
I second someone walking along side if this works. Other wise this is a common problem with this old balers. Thats why i went to a 46 ih. more capacity not as many shear bolts.



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no.46

07-21-2003 07:44:11




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 Re: Re: john deere knotter??? in reply to Dan, 07-21-2003 07:24:07  
I second someone walking along side if this works. Other wise this is a common problem with this old balers. Thats why i went to a 46 ih. more capacity not as many shear bolts.



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