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Errin OH

07-18-2003 08:47:26




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My hay making is expanding. I need to upgrade, but don't have the money to get what I would really like to have. I have been doing about 5-600 bales a year and its looking like we're going to over 1500 next year. Reasoning behind the new plan - The mower is the worst followed by the rake, baler, crimper, and wagons. I had convinced my self that I needed a new (faster) baler, but am re-thinking it. Thanks to JerryD, I know what the problem was/is with the baler and it was flying the last time out and only broke 4 knots in 230 bales (not bad for a 50 year old baler with problems). Anyway I kept time of the steps and found with two guys we could mow and crimp an acre in 50 mins, ted in roughly 15, rake and bale in 30. I didn't count unloading (have to do that regardless). My goal is to be able to complete a step in a day since we are picking up 20 acres that's 20+ miles from home, So, I ran the numbers and think I will be putting the money towards a new mowing system. But what to get. Money has me limited to three choices - Used haybine, New sickle, or the dreaded Drum mower.

Haybine - A haybine would be a good choice because it crimps at the same time and one guy could do it. But with a "good" used unit going in the $4-5000 range around here, I'd be looking at one in a little rougher shape and don't want to end up with a money pit.

Sickle - I have nothing against a new sickle, but do they tend to clog up they way this old unit does (that's my biggest time consumer, stop, get down, unclog, start again)?

Drum mower - I have no idea how they perform. Have some experience with a disk mower, do they work (cut) the same way or is there a difference? Looking for someone who has or is using one for comments

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Jerry D in NC

07-18-2003 12:31:38




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 Re: New plan in reply to Errin OH, 07-18-2003 08:47:26  
Errin,

Was it the billhook or the wiper arm?

Do you have a double knife at the end of your cutterbar? That fixes the end clogging on a sicklebar better than anything I know and they cost less than $5. Good gamble if it is clogging at the end of the bar.

I faced the same situation a couple of years back in needing to crimp the alfalfa but the disc mower we were using didn't work very well if the crop was less than 18 inches and that can be half the cuttings. I came on a JD 1207 for less than $500 and took it home. I just bought a complete new knife with head (bolts) hold downs and wear plates plus 25 sections for under $175 delivered from Sickle Service (www.sickleservice.com) and am about to take that on. It has performed great. I see the 1209's (9ft vs 7ft) around here regularly for <$1500. What I guess I am really saying is that this winter there will be some deals that will need a bit of work but still provide years of service in NH or JD or NI or IH models. The old sickle versions are getting cheaper every year and still do great at making hay. I cut and crimp with my 7ft 1207 2-3 acres an hour easy in my alfalfa. Look around and you may find an old NH 469 for less than a $1000. I don't know how well a crimper will do with hay mowed with a drum mower but you might want to figure that out before considering that investment.

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Errin OH

07-18-2003 13:41:57




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 Re: Re: New plan in reply to Jerry D in NC, 07-18-2003 12:31:38  
Well I may just have found my deal. JD 1209, in the price range and appears to be in good shape. I'll know more tonight.

As for the baler its the cams. There is a deep grove (1/8-3/16") where the rolers for the swipe arms ride in them. My temp fix was to fill them with JB weld. One held up well the other bout half of it cracked and fell out. Now that the baling is done I plan to do a permanent fix (weld or replace). Wouldn't happen to know a good set of knotter cams are collecting dust would ya?

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paul

07-18-2003 13:02:07




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 Re: Re: New plan in reply to Jerry D in NC, 07-18-2003 12:31:38  
What Jerry D said exactly.

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