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Rotary Hoe?

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Jerry (AL)

07-17-2003 11:43:54




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I saw an implement today that has been sitting in the same place now for sale for at lkeast 2-3 years. The for sale sign rotted away.

This deal has two gangs and has rotary spikes about 8-10 inches apart about 10 to the gang. Spikes appear to be about 8 inches long. It looks to be 6-7 feet wide. This appears to be a pretty old piece of equipment. It looks to be a drag style piece.

What were the uses of and what is the true name of? Were they any good?

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jls

07-19-2003 21:11:59




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 Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 11:43:54  
used to run in 7 with a D15 in corn and beans only had a few days when plants were the right size and soil was right but in 7th you could really cover some ground. Grandpa had a lift chain break on the one side tho and when he heard the ping he dove off the side while popping the hi-low into neutral, hoe had caught the tire and was drug up onto the tractor perforating the tire, fender, tool box(on fender), and the seat bending the steering wheel! I think dad did the rest of the rotary hoeing that year.

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Hugh MacKay

07-18-2003 20:25:05




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 Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 11:43:54  
Jerry: One other thing about the rotary hoe, unlike all other row crop cultivators they kill the weeds in row as well as between rows. They do not disturb the soil very deeply, thus no new un germinated new weeds seeds are brought to growing surface. They also do an excellent job of incorperating chemicals. With 10% of the recomended rates for atrazine in corn and a rotary hoe, I could grow weed free corn. Today the chemical gurues tell us we need more envormentally friendly chemicals that cost 500% more to use.

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Brad Gyde

07-17-2003 19:35:40




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 Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 11:43:54  
They were real good for picking up buried beer cans. A older fellow always used to tell us younger generation bout different farm stories, and this lil story is one that sticks with me.

He said that back when they buried clay tiles for drainage, they would dig most of the trenches by hand and lay the tiles, drinkin beer while working, and would throw the empties in the trenches.

After the trenches were covered, and the ground was plowed, fitted, and planted (along with winter freeze/thaw) the beer cans would be nearer to the top than they were last year. After the corn began to sprout, he would rotary hoe, and the cans would stick in the tines on the wheel, and take out corn when the wheel got hung up.

Needless to say, he decided there would be no more beer drank on the farm, but that only lasted a litle while... now the rotary hoe sits back in his tree line ( or it's in the local scrap yard)

Hope you enjoyed the story

Brad

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MarkB

07-17-2003 19:13:43




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 Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 11:43:54  
My family raised dryland pinto beans back in the late 60's. The rotary hoe was great at killing very small weeds before they became big weeds. Once the beans got two or three inches tall we'd rotary hoe them. The hoe wouldn't harm the beans, but anything smaller was history.

I remember this well, because before we learned to rotary hoe, we had to hoe the beans by hand. I suppose chemicals have made the rotary hoe obsolete, but at the time I considered it to be a miracle machine!

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greenbeanman

07-17-2003 15:36:32




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 Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 11:43:54  
They were excellent for breaking the crust of ground that had been planted and gotten a hard rain on. They also were used to cultivate, i.e. hoe the small weeds out of stands of corn and milo. They were fair at them if you got the weeds small enough. They are still in favor in some areas of corn country. Most that I see are 3 pt. John Deere and each hoe is now on a spring loaded shank like deal.

Rotary hoes were pretty easy pulling, and speed was somewhat of a key to getting them to work correctly. For an old Minneapolis Moline GTB you would use 4th gear, which was about the only thing you ever used it for. Other than moving from one location to another.

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Jerry (AL)

07-17-2003 17:05:39




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 Re: Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to greenbeanman, 07-17-2003 15:36:32  
I don't think that piece was designed to cultivate anything like a row crop. There was no spacing for a row. It looked like it just pulled behind a tractor to punch holes or tear up the ground. I wonder if it might be some form of pasture renovator or aerator.



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Hugh Mackay

07-18-2003 20:07:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 17:05:39  
Jerry Row crops are only reason for the design of the rotary hoe. You can use it on corn, beans, peas and potatoes are the big one. To be effective on weeds you must catch them as they germinate. I use mine mainly on potatoes and yes up until the potatos are 6" high. They also do a good job on breaking up a crust. My machine is one of the new John Deere 3 point hitch. They are not a cheap machine to operate, as when they wear you really have nothing left of any value except the tool bar. Mine is getting worn badly and I could buy a new one for less than parts to rebuild the one I have. It was new in 1991.

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paul

07-17-2003 19:47:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 17:05:39  
Exactly - you can use it to kill the weeds in the row, not just between the rows. The key is that the corn crop is very young, and the weeds are _just_ poking up. the points, called spoons, will pull up the fine weeds, but only damage 1% or so of the sturdier corn - corn keeps it's growing point below the ground for several weeks, so even if you rip a few leaves or break a few off, the corn will grow right back.

The 3-point new style is still popular. The style you found was prone to plugging in trash, and not as handy.

As stated, moving fast is the key - most have a shield on them to protect the driver/ cab glass from rocks that are flung, as you motivate through the field!

They are also used to break the crust on bean fields in clay soil - under the wrong rainfall condition, the top inch of clay soil can harden up like concrete, and the beans can't sprout through it.

--->Paul

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JMS/MN

07-18-2003 21:39:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to paul, 07-17-2003 19:47:32  
Ditto on what Paul says- plus, like a coil tine harrow, which also was popular years ago for killing weeds in the row- they work better in sunlight than clouds or night time. Plants are more flexible during sunlight and can stand the aggressive action of something going down the row.



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thurlow

07-17-2003 18:43:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to Jerry (AL), 07-17-2003 17:05:39  
Trust the greenbeanman; it had it exactly right..... .



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thurlow

07-17-2003 18:44:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to thurlow, 07-17-2003 18:43:38  
He probably is a "he" rather than an "it"



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greenbeanman

07-18-2003 15:53:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rotary Hoe? in reply to thurlow, 07-17-2003 18:44:47  
Thanks! I assure you I am all male with male tendencies. Having said that, as a divorcee I am also gender secure enough to cook, do laundry, clean, and even sew if the need arises. I'm familar with an iron which I use on all shirts before I go to my off farm job. Yup, I've got that dangly thing. lol



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