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Round bales, tighter

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Rich G

07-09-2003 19:27:28




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Ok guys I have a CASE International 8440 lg round baler. How do I get the bales tighter. I have the manual on order. Making 1200lb round bales but after a couple of days they seem to be saging a little too much. Larger windrow, slower tractor speed, spring adjustmen? I bale straight grass hay previous owner did a 50/50 bale and his bales looked great. HELP




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Roy in UK

07-11-2003 15:29:32




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 Re: Round bales, tighter in reply to Rich G, 07-09-2003 19:27:28  
A fundamental question....is it a 'fixed' or a 'variable' chamber machine? I can remember that my JD 550 ( variable, belts ) could make far denser bales than my 5' Claas baler ( fixed, rollers )



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JMS/MN

07-10-2003 23:58:39




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 Re: Round bales, tighter in reply to Rich G, 07-09-2003 19:27:28  
Don't know about your baler, but I have had a 456 NI for maybe ten years. I remember a field of alfalfa that baled up nice, but the next day or two the bales sagged. Was a bit wet, and I was wrapping bales when the meter was on the low end of the scale- meter measures hydraulic pressure on the door, indicating when the bale is 'full' enough. 456 is a soft center, fixed chamber round baler. Did not want to exceed meter limits, because I thought I might break belts. Found out that the 456 did not have a positive door latch, like later models, and meter limits could be exceeded in wetter hay to get a tighter wrap. Worst case would be snapping shear bolts. Ok, been there, done that, too! But the bales didn't sag anymore. More of a problem with late night, humid/dewy conditions, etc.

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Mark at CCM

07-10-2003 20:07:00




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 Re: Round bales, tighter in reply to Rich G, 07-09-2003 19:27:28  
Get you a Vermeer baler.



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ChrisL

07-10-2003 18:03:23




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 Re: Round bales, tighter in reply to Rich G, 07-09-2003 19:27:28  
put a little extra in them - keep feeding it in a little longer after the alarm goes off - tie and dump JUST before shear pin breaks.....



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James in NC

07-10-2003 10:54:16




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 Re: Round bales, tighter in reply to Rich G, 07-09-2003 19:27:28  
Drop down a gear and if your windrows match your baler pickup it will help a lot becuase it feeds hay in evenly and helps pack the ends of the bale. One way to do this is with a twin rake.

James



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paul

07-09-2003 20:38:57




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 Re: Round bales, tighter in reply to Rich G, 07-09-2003 19:27:28  
I know nothing about your baler. But if I reply & am wrong, at least a lot of others will then reply & help you. :) :)

In general, grass hay will sag more than alfalfa - doesn't pack quite as tight, & doesn't hold together.

The slower you drive PLUS the thinner your windrows, the more the baler will pack the stuff together.

Wet hay will tend to sag more than dry windrows.....

More twine closer together will help a bit to keep it tight.

Of course, more tension from the springs or hyd will make a tighter bale, but don't know if that is an option on your machine?

--->Paul

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