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marvin

07-07-2003 11:44:44

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I have a 6 ft IH A16 rear mounted mower on my Super A. In the past when I have had to replace sickle sections I have just used a small ball pein hammer to flat out the one end of the rivet. Is the correct method to do this or is there a tool that I should use to roll over the end of the rivet?

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Alvin NE WI

07-08-2003 17:45:26

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

Use a bigger hammer and swing it. Years ago there were no gadgets for that, just a big hammer and always worked.

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JMS/MN

07-07-2003 22:53:27

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

If you don't want to buy the two-ended Y tool, a hydraulic jack works fine, or as Paul says- use a shaft to put under the sickle bar- a dimple drilled in the end of the shaft will center on the bottom side of the rivet, and than whack it with a hammer on top to tighten the rivet and section.

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greenbeanman

07-07-2003 22:23:22

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

There is a tool you can use that punches the old rivet out, and sets new ones. It does an excellent job. The job looks great too if that counts. I think I paid $26 for mine. The tool is of cast iron with kind of a "Y" shape on each end. The Y stradles above and below the sickle bar so that no bar removal is required. That is not really a lot of fun on a 24 foot combine header. A socket and ratchet moves the tools on the end of the "Ys".

There is also a hand tool to set the rivets. It looks similar to a cold chisel, but is flat on the end rather than being sharpened.

In the flat part there are rounded holes that give the rivet head the perfect finished shape. Really sets the rivet well and gives a nice look. Never had a section come loose after using one. The one my dad and I used was decades old.

Peening a rivet with a hammer is an acceptable way, but you did ask if it was the correct way---no it really isn't. And yes, there are the aforementioned tools if you wish to use them.

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Bernie inMA

07-07-2003 18:02:31

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

I used to have sections loosen up. I found that if you pound the rivet straight down for a ways it will swell so they won't get loose. Use the ball side of the hammer to peen down the edges after. I use the bolts and nuts now, much easier to change a broken section.

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marvin

07-07-2003 15:31:19

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

Thanks for the input. I remember my dad just using the hammer and that is all that I have done. This last weekend when I was mowing I noticed that some of the longer rivets that hold a section and the plate that is attached the ball connecting plate, were coming loose. Maybe the rivets were not long enough to begin with.

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TP from Central PA

07-07-2003 15:25:45

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

On our NI sickle bar mower(trailing with a pitman), I take the bar out..... ..I then lay the bar on a railroad iron I have that is a foot long, hit the rivets with a hammer and they are ON THERE!!!!! !

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Roy in UK

07-07-2003 15:24:01

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

That's all I used to use ( hammer and anvil )to get the old sections off I used to buzz off the rivet heads with an angle grinder and pop them out with a small punch.

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07-07-2003 15:16:25

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

I just put all new sections on my MH 60pt combine and I pulled all 8ft out and used a anvil and a 2lb. hammer and smashed the rivets. Then if you have a large vise I squish 4 rivets at a time to "top off" them off so they're tight. Tool you can buy is a big pain in the rear! I like the hammer way makes is look old fashion!

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paul

07-07-2003 13:58:05

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Re: Riveting sickle sections in reply to marvin, 07-07-2003 11:44:44

You can buy bolts that will fit, they are kinda nice.

There is a tool, $50 or more, that will squish the rivet. Look in the sickle section of most farm supply stores.

A hammer is all that's been used on this farm, works fine, not a thing wrong with it. You need to hold the back of the rivet with a chunk of iron. I do most of my repairs by only removing a guard set, & I have a couple of shafts & such that fit up nice on the back of the rivet.

--->Paul

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