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JD 214WS Baler

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Chuck, WA

07-02-2003 07:29:53




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I started trying to get my JD 214WS baler (wire tie) ready to use last weekend. It hasn't been used in about 5 years, most of which it was stored in a dry barn, with the last year under my shed, but still dry. Our country here is very dry - about 7" of rain a year - so there really isn't a rust problem, but could be problems with dried out grease.

The previous owner used it for wheat straw exclusively and it still has the remains of the last two bales in it. He is trustworthy, and since he says it ran fine with no problems, I can believe him.

I've started by scraping hardened grease/dirt off around shafts and grease fittings, and looking over the operator's and parts manuals to familiarize myself. I have ordered a replacement split bearing for the pitman and will replace that when it comes in.

My questions have to do with what all I should do before hitching up and trying it for the first time? I am planning on pulling the grease zirks and cleaning them as I suspect the grease is hardened and it would be better to clean them rather than try to force new grease in on top of the old.

What about those two old bales of straw still in the baler - should I try to clean those out, or am I better off leaving them in to kind of prime it and provide something to push against, and to avoid having to re-thread wire? Or, is it best to clear them and start fresh - rethreading the wire from scratch? There is a litle light surface rust in the chamber due to the straw absorbing a little moisture, and I know from what I can see that the wire itself is rusted, at least on top.

One of my main concerns is the various slip clutches. As far as I can see from the manual, parts manual and the baler itself, there are no less than four slip clutches, and I may even be missing others. There is the large flywheel slip clutch, one on the main drive shaft, one on the pickup shaft, and one other that I'm forgetting. Since it's been some time since the baler was run, my intuition is that I should disassemble them and clean them, then reassemble and adjust the tension. However, it wouldn't take much convincing by somebody who knows better to just go for it and use the machine without that additional time and effort. I'm afraid that after all that time without use, the clutches might be frozen, or at least sticky or otherwise tighter than spec so as to not slip at a low enough torque, and thus not provide the protection they were intended to provide.

Being new to haying, but fairly competent mechanically, I'd sure appreciate whatever advice and tips somebody with a lot more experience can provide. Any suggestions regarding other service that I should perform before trying the baler for the first time would be helpful.

Incidentally, I will be baling grass hay. Since the baler was set up for wheat straw, I am guessing that settings used for the straw would be a safe enough for a first try, then adjust from there. The grass hay is very light and fluffy in the windrow - not at all like alfalfa, but more like straw. Is that a good assumption.

Thanks very much for your help!

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Jim B

07-03-2003 03:38:27




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 Re: JD 214WS Baler in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-02-2003 07:29:53  
Chuck,check tightness of chains and operation of plungerhead stop as this could save you the price of needles.If you are using wire that has been in baler a long time pour light wt. oil or diesel on it so it will slide through wire guides and knotters better.Check wire guide rollers.They should turn freely with no flat spots.Old hay should have been removed 5 yrs. ago to help rust but you can start baling with it in baler.Good luck with 214 as they are good ole balers just lower capacity than new ones.JimB

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Chuck, WA

07-03-2003 06:51:18




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 Re: Re: JD 214WS Baler in reply to Jim B, 07-03-2003 03:38:27  
Jim...Thanks! I was beginning to think I wasn't going to get an answer. The wire has been in the baler since it's last use 4-5 years ago. Didn'5-t think about oiling it, but of course, that's a good idea and will do. Will check chains, stop and rollers as suggested - good points. I expect some limited rust in teh chamber due to old bales, but expect it won't be bad. Could cause more friction so tighter bales, so am thinking I might clean it out and remove rust. Intuitively, I'd think that the less startup sress, the less likely something will break.

I think what happened is that my friend finished baling straw one season, then in the off season, changed his operation so that he was doing things differently, and the baler wasn't needed, so just sat in the barn where he stored it in the condition it was in when he pulled it out of the field the previous season.

Any thoughts on the slip clutches? That's a major concern for me. Until I get the baler operational, I'll be bush hogging the grass hay and letting it lie, or hand forking (only about an acre right now) windrowed hay into the truck. The additional time (evenings and weekends) needed to disassemble, reassemble and adjust the slip clutches will just delay getting it into bales, and as this is my first baler, everything will take longer to accomplish. However, the comment above about less stress helping avoid breaking anything goes here as well. I'd rather take the time and do it right and not break anything, but, if it's really not necessary, I don't need to put the extra time and effort into unnecessary service.

Thanks again for the reply.

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