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Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need ideas)

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Mike

06-24-2003 03:26:07




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I was in my home town a couple of weeks ago and saw a New Holland rake sitting in a fence row a few miles from my father's house. Living 350+ miles from there now and in a rush to get home I didn't stop to take a look at it. I called back there this weekend and asked my father to check on it. The owner said if I wanted it, come get it. He would even help us load it. Can't beat that. I'm not sure what model it is. Just drove by and could see it sticking out of the grass. The owner told my father he dosen't use it anymore so... guess what, I'm going after it this weekend if everything works out.
Here's the question: I've got a 18 foot pipe top trailer that's 7' inside width. I've got access to 100+ HP tractors on both ends with front end loaders so they should be able to lift it so I can get it on and off the trailer (I hope) but will it fit on the trailer if I place it sideways? Like I said, I'm not sure what model it is. Was just wandering if anyone here has hauled a rolla-bar type rake before. If so, how?
Thanks for any help.

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Mike

06-24-2003 18:59:16




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 Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need ideas in reply to Mike, 06-24-2003 03:26:07  
Thanks for the help guys. Getting some help from back home for tomorrow and they are going to stop by after work and see what model it is, measure and start looking what will need to be done to get it home.
I'll post again after I get it home and fill you guys in on how the trip went.
Thanks again.



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Jim.UT

06-24-2003 14:37:49




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 Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need ideas in reply to Mike, 06-24-2003 03:26:07  
I hauled a MF 36 pull type rake to auction last spring on a 16' trailer. Had to park it on there at an angle to get it all on, but it's do-able. Take lots of tie-downs and make sure it's tied down real snug front to back and side to side. Take red flags, too for wherever it hangs over the side too far. A trailer without rails would probably work better, but I'm guessing you'll do fine.



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Jerry D in NC

06-24-2003 12:42:29




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 Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need ideas in reply to Mike, 06-24-2003 03:26:07  
I will also depend on which model Rolabar. If it is a 55 then the axle is straight and it will not sit at the angle like an offset Rolabar will. How high are your sides. It may work just fine if you are sitting it down with a loader straight on. If you have to that basket comes off fairly easy. Let me know and I can check mine to tell you what wrenches. If I can get to the 256 I will measure it to see how small a area it will fit.

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markct

06-24-2003 08:38:33




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 Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need ideas in reply to Mike, 06-24-2003 03:26:07  
when i bought my jd hay rake we backed my flatbed truck, 8x12 flatbed, up to a bank and then backed the rake on as far as we safely could with the sellers farmall H, then we pulled it on with a comealong the rest of the way, chained it down and we were good to go, the rake i got was about 10ft overall width so it hung over the truck by a bit on each side,we just tied some red flags on it for safety and went with it, no problems on the interstate highway, even passed a cop but he didnt seem concerned about the overwidth since it was farm machinery

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Chuck, WA

06-24-2003 06:55:00




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 Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need ideas in reply to Mike, 06-24-2003 03:26:07  
Mike....hauled two. Last weekend, Ford 503 on a flatbed hay trailer just wide enough for the rake sitting sideways. No problem. Loaded with a frontloader and chain, and unloaded at my place with a come-along attached to a roof beam under my shed - no front loader on my tractor! :)

Last year, the other was a Ferguson DEO-20 - smaller than the Ford. It was loaded into the bed of my 75 Chevy 3/4T pickup (long-wide box) with a frontloader and chain. The box was just wide enough to get it in. Didn't have the beam and come-along at that time, so ended up backing up to a slope and dragging it off with my tractor - actually worked without damage to the truck or rake...amazing!

Anyhow, don't see any problem if the rake is under 7 ft across its narrow dimension.

Tie it down tight - chains and tighteners if possible - and block the tongue or 3-pt so it's not resting on the tines. On my Ford rake, I blocked it and there was enough air in the tires so that when we locked down the chains, it was solid with the tires providing enough give to lock down the tighteners. With the Ferguson, it was such a close fit in the pickup box, didn't do anything but a nylon strap across the back to keep it from sliding out - had to leave the tailgate down. Judging by what it took to get it out, probably didn't need the strap, but I tend to be over careful.

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Mike

06-24-2003 10:40:23




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 Re: Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need i in reply to Chuck, WA, 06-24-2003 06:55:00  
Chuck,
Did that trailer have rail sides on it? I'm kind of worried mine won't be wide enough. Thinking I'll back both tires up against one side of the trailer and hope the angle of the rake will allow the tongue to sit on the floor of the trailer on the opposite side. I'm not sure what the angle is on those rakes but I have a neighbor who has one and I'll stop by over there tonight and scope it out. I looked around on the web and it looks like most of the tongue model NH rakes are 10' in length. My trailer is 7' inside width so my fingers are crossed and hopefully that angle will be enough to fit. If it dosen't, I may have to pull the basket off and load the frame seperate from the basket. I'm assuming the basket comes off. I'll find out when I get there. Will be on interstate and major roadways. Also will have some Houston traffic to deal with on the way home.
Thanks for the help.

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Chuck, WA

06-24-2003 11:53:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but ne in reply to Mike, 06-24-2003 10:40:23  
Mike...no rails, but wheelwells. One rake wheel was against the inside of the wheelwell on one side, the other wheel right close to the deck edge, and the rake tongue (the previous owner had added a frame and tongue for towed use) stuck over the other side a few inches but behind the other wheelwell, and inside the width of the wheelwell. No problem at all.

I'm not at all familiar with that rake, so can't comment on chances of it fitting.

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paul

06-24-2003 06:16:07




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 Re: Moving a NH Hay Rake (Long post but need ideas in reply to Mike, 06-24-2003 03:26:07  
Sounds like you have it all worked out. Would be just fine in my state.

--->Paul



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