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Jeff

06-19-2003 19:29:38




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I need some help. I have a Oliver 77 RC and a New Holland 67 baler and a New Idea 45 rake. I have just started baling with this combination and have not done any haying for 30 years and that was when my Dad was farming. My problem is that I can not run the tractor in first gear with the rpms at 3/4 throttle with out the pickup plugging up. Would my windrows be to large or is something wrong with the baler or any other ideas? I'm baling mixed grass hay. Thanks for all the help. Jeff

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Jeff

06-20-2003 18:57:14




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
It works Thanks for the all advice. The proublem was the pickup slip clutch had to get a new one. It was tight but was wore out and would work great if the hay was light and when I get to heavier hay it would slip. The way I found it was by spliting thr windrows and walking along side. Thanks and what a great site. Jeff



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Ted Boss

06-20-2003 14:28:53




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
I use a NH S66 and have had plugging problems before. I found that consistant windrows, dry curred hay, proper adjustment of baler made all the differnce. I too can go too fast and have to bale heavy crop in first gear and sometimes if I have a extra large "clump" in my windrow, push the clutch in and creap through that spot. My first gear at proper RPM gives me 1.9 MPH, way to fast for my heavest fields ( 5.5 ton/a ) the lighter fields (2 T/A) can go in 2nd/3rd gear. Have fun, good luck, and stay safe. Ted

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Errin OH

06-20-2003 07:24:20




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
Why 3/4 on the throttle? I use an old ford (250) and found that plunger strokes was a little more important than power and speed. To fast and I would have plug and tie problems all day. On my NAA 1st gear at 1000rpm was just right, very little plugging and tied just right. Now that I moved it over to the AC, I am having to find the right combo all over again. Seems to be something in the 2nd, 3rd gear, lettle less than 1/2 throttle. But with all the rain I have only done about 4 test bales on the AC. I am hoping with Hi/low I can leave the throttle alone and change ground speed depending on windrow size. I do not know the gearing in an oliver but the bailer should be in the 30 something plunger strokes per min area. Check the math. As far as equipment goes check the hay dogs. The lower spring was broken when I bought it and that let the hay come back forward and block the feed chamber. After replacing it I didn't have any troubles with blockage.

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Ridr

06-20-2003 13:17:13




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 Re: Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Errin OH, 06-20-2003 07:24:20  
30 strokes ?? man that seems real slow , I run somewhere around 80



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Ken Hilliard

06-20-2003 01:13:12




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
Tractor should not be a problem. Look for loss of turning power to the pickup or the devices that move the hay to the plunger. If the block is at the plunger, then check the knives for cutting the hay at plunger chamber. If the plug is at the pickup before moving to the plunger chamber, then check for loss of turning power for moving the hay from the ground to the plunger chamber. Older balers had ground driven pick ups and they were alway a problem. But check the belts and mechanical parts that drive the hay after the pick up to the plunger chamber as they can cause problems. Particularly look for loose belts.

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Just me

06-20-2003 05:06:30




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 Re: Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Ken Hilliard, 06-20-2003 01:13:12  
A 67 is not ground driven and they do not have belts



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paul

06-19-2003 21:09:41




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
Well how big is your windrow? :) Must be too big, the tractor is a great choice for baling. I'd be aiming for baling in 2nd, sometimes 3rd in the thin stuff, & sometimes 1st if it got heavier than planned.

--->Paul



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Sid

06-19-2003 20:55:24




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
If you haven't already done so I suggest you check the knives are they sharp and adjusted right.



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John in IN

06-19-2003 20:36:23




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
Hey, I'm not sure if I can answer you problem yet. I'm going to be trying an Oliver 77RC and a N.H. 68 baler soon as I finish the rebuild. You have a good combination, good luck!



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rob

06-19-2003 19:49:47




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
Keep your windrows small and consistant, that is a great baler if you don't try to overdue it, take your time. I still bale over 10,000 bales a year with my 67 and a 4020.



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Burrhead

06-19-2003 19:49:38




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 Re: Oliver and NH 67 baler in reply to Jeff, 06-19-2003 19:29:38  
are you sure the hay is not too green.

I never had a problem with continual grass plugging in my wore out NH balers no matter how big the windrow is if the grass is cured right.



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