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New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A

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Richard Steckme

06-11-2003 19:17:25




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I just aquired a New Idea model 30A sickle mower without a manual. Problem is that the 7 ft sickle bar is in very poor condition & won't cut hay. The sickle bar appears to have a part number on it( 045HSA ). After spending a couple hours at Tractor Supply Co. trying to match the old sickle bar with new John Deere & Ford sickle bars, I couldn't find an "exact match". Can some tell me where I can purchase a new sickle bar or will the John Deere or Ford sickle bars work ? As an option I could replace the 28 blades & rivits with new ones from Tractor Supply. Grinding off the rivits, installing new blades & rivits is the easy part. The question is how do you smash the end of the rivit to keep it in place ?

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Brett

06-12-2003 09:50:47




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 Re: New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A in reply to Richard Steckmeyer, 06-11-2003 19:17:25  
I also have a NI 30A that I've recently restored. I've replaced the sickle with a complete replacement that no longer uses rivets (Herschel-Adams Universal 7' sickle...sorry, I don't recall the model # off-hand), but I still keep all the riveting parts around for use on spare sickles scrounged up at auction.

Some the farm supply stores here in SW MO carry a tool that will squeeze new rivets and push out old rivets (once you've taken the rounded heads off one side.) I picked on up used at auction for $5, but if you're not as lucky, they can be had new for $45-$50. I'm not sure the brand of the new rivet squeezers, but if you can't find anything on them, you can call Race Brother's Farm and Home Supply in Carthage, MO to ask what the brand name is. (Their number is (417) 358-3529.) Using a rivet squeezer requires less skill than hand-forming it with a ball-pein hammer, which will likely make for quicker knife changes and less cussing while you learn to do it by hand. :-)

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Gary in TX

06-12-2003 08:15:02




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 Re: New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A in reply to Richard Steckmeyer, 06-11-2003 19:17:25  
Since they came out with the bolts, I wouldn't even consider rivits unless absolutly necessary.
Changing to bolts will require high arc hold downs.



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Sam#3

06-12-2003 07:18:40




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 Re: New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A in reply to Richard Steckmeyer, 06-11-2003 19:17:25  
You received a lot of tips on how to change sickle sections. Not sure it answered your question on the cutter 'bar.' Unless the bar has been bent or otherwise damaged it's all a matter of changing parts. The guards can be replaced whole or if not too badly worn the ledger plates can be replaced. The shoes and hold-down plates can also be replaced. The two componets, Bar and sickle must both be sharp and tight to do a good cut and avoid the 'clogs.'

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buck

06-11-2003 22:07:43




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 Re: New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A in reply to Richard Steckmeyer, 06-11-2003 19:17:25  

The trick to installing a rivit that will hold is to smack the end real hard and square on the first lick while holding the bar and blade very tight together. What this does is to swell the length of the rivit tightly into the hole in the bar and blade. A couple more good square smacks will swell the remaining portion of the rivit into a nice head. Instead of grinding the old rivits try laying the back edge if the bar against something strong and solid like the edge of an anvil or jaws of a good vice and then hit the end of the blade very sharply. This will shear off the old rivits and you will only have that portion left in the bar to punch out.Tip: since your old bar is not usable get a bunch of rivits and practice on that bar and the old blades.

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Chris L

06-11-2003 20:14:00




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 Re: New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A in reply to Richard Steckmeyer, 06-11-2003 19:17:25  
I just stick a new rivet in, take big hammer and pound it into nice round shape (I am getting better at it)



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Brian in MO

06-11-2003 20:10:13




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 Re: New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A in reply to Richard Steckmeyer, 06-11-2003 19:17:25  
The rivets are easy to smash, a big hammer and a anvil (or a old piece or railroad track about a foot long) works well.Put them in from the bottom side and flatten the top. Brian



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Robert B. Cornell

06-11-2003 19:42:52




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 Re: New Idea Sickle Mower Model 30A in reply to Richard Steckmeyer, 06-11-2003 19:17:25  
try www.sickleservice.com

They are very helpful and have numerous parts. You might want to try bolted sections rather than rivited.



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