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Kelly C

06-05-2003 20:14:44




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Must be that time of year. I have been reading all the post as I will be raking soon for the 1st time.
Here is mine.
Aprox how many 7' swaths do you rake into a wind row for a small capacity baler like my NH 68?
I am sure how tall the grass is and how dence it is makes a difference but I am looking for a fair starting point.

Also can you describe the process? IE do you take the row closes to the out side and roll it in onto swath 2 the turn around and put swath 3 onto 2 ect ect. Just looking for some ides.
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Kelly

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Otis

06-18-2003 21:03:53




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 Re: More hay raking questions in reply to Kelly C, 06-05-2003 20:14:44  
Sorry I am so late in picking up this thread. You have possibly completed raking. Anyhow, I thought I would give you my suggestion.

I have raked hay for years. Thick and thin hay. If you are suggesting to rake a 7' windrow with another, the hay crop can not be that good. If the crop is healthy, one 7' windrow would be adequete for many balers. The baler would have to adjust its speed accordingly. If the crop is thin, you can combine many windrows together. I have combined up to 5 windrows into one for the baler in poor fields.

To combine more than one windrow, let's say 3 for an example, leave the outside 2 windrows. The hay is often thicker and damper because it is normally in the shade of the field. Start with the third windrow and rake clockwise. When you complete the first circle (back to the starting point), merge the rake 3 more windrows towards the center. Don't worry about crossing the windrows at a diagonal, but it is best to do it at a corner of the field. Continue this (merging 3 windrows at a time) till the center. When at the center, drive the rake out (best at a corner). Start again at the outside windrow you first started raking and continue towards the center. You should be making your second windrow pass (of a 3 into 1 windrow). Complete the second windrow pass to the center and take the route out where you did on the first pass. Now, after making two passes on the field, and you are ready for the final pass, start with the SECOND windrow you have already raked. Leave the outermost one for now. Rake this until the center. Drive out at the previous rake exit to the outermost part of the field. At this point, the field should be all raked up except for the outermost windrows. When you get done raking, the baler should be there baling or arriving soon. The baler should start with the SECOND windrow and continue till the center. Once the baler has completed its first loop, the rake needs to start up again and "pull in" the outermost windrow by driving counter-clockwise. This will complete the outer most windrow and the baler would bale it up as the last windrow, after baling all the rest to the center.

Hope this makes sense. It is not as difficult as described. Email with any questions.

Otis

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chief 83

06-05-2003 21:35:39




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 Re: More hay raking questions in reply to Kelly C, 06-05-2003 20:14:44  
I'm no expert but I've had a fair amount of luck. Generally you cut, rake and bale in the same direction, clockwise. On the first pass with the rake you go counter-clockwise all the way around the outside 1 time. Turn around and go clockwise on the row you just raked. I generally straddle the outside row with the tractor so as not to make the outside row any larger than it already will be. The outside row is at least 1.5 time larger than the rest and takes much longer to dry. Smaller is better with regard to the outside row. I just use the width of the rake to measure for the other rows. If it's really fine stuff you could rake two together. Hope this helps. Have fun.

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Jerry A.

06-07-2003 19:44:04




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 Re: Re: More hay raking questions in reply to chief 83, 06-05-2003 21:35:39  
I've got an old Super 68 NH baler. I've found that thinner windrows work best and moving a little faster seems easier on the baler. I made some heavier windrows for some hay I thought the custom baler man would do (big round bales), but then decided to bale them myself (small squares). Big mistake. The poor old girl makes nice bales in general, but those windrows were so thick, I was just creeping to keep the hay feeding slow enough that the hay wouldn't wad up and cause the clutch to slip (yes, the clutch is adjusted correctly!).

I'd go easy on the windrows to start with.

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RayP(MI)

06-06-2003 19:31:07




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 Re: Re: More hay raking questions in reply to chief 83, 06-05-2003 21:35:39  
Bale the outside row last so it has more drying time!



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paul

06-05-2003 21:53:19




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 Re: Re: More hay raking questions in reply to chief 83, 06-05-2003 21:35:39  
With a 270 baler, i generally rake two 9' swaths together from the mowco, or three 7' swaths together from the sickle mower. But as you say, it all depends - and to start with err on the side of too thin, as once you pile up too big a swath, then what? :) Nothing wrong with thin swaths, you can make more trips with the siderake, or more trips with the baler - almost the same.

I like to make the last raking of a windrow counter-clockwise, as that makes the corners wide & gentle to follow with the baler. If you are raking inward on the last pass, the corners get sharp & tight.

Hard to get it wrong tho, just rake it, as Nike might say....

--->Paul

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Kelly C

06-05-2003 22:24:47




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 Re: Re: Re: More hay raking questions in reply to paul, 06-05-2003 21:53:19  
(((Hard to get it wrong tho,)))
Oh I bet I can find a way :-)

Thanks Paul
Kelly



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Hayman

06-05-2003 23:05:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: More hay raking questions in reply to Kelly C, 06-05-2003 22:24:47  
Have you got a thin crop?iF it's that thin just rake it inward until you have the size you want then rake it away by going around the other way and so on.



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