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Brian

04-30-2003 07:17:25




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I have a semi-mount 3 bottom IH plow. I do not know the model, and I now need to. While plowing yesterday a rock badly bent one of the points where I know I need to get a new share.

It is an older plow, one guy told me he thought it was either a 510 or 520 but he didn't know the difference between the two. It has been painted and I can find no plates or serial #s on it.

Any tricks for identifying them would be appreciated.

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Brian

05-01-2003 05:34:57




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 Re: IH Plow Questions in reply to Brian, 04-30-2003 07:17:25  
It sounds to me like it is a 530. It is a 14" something I should have included in the first post, and I can see no evidence of it being shortened from 4 bottoms. The point and share is all one piece. I'll remove the bad one and take it to the local IH dealer and see if we can match it.

I found another plow that looks exactly like mine at a neighboring farm. It is laying on its back and the guy said it was junk. Problem is the frogs are worn out and the points and shares were welded on to make it go a couple more years. It is now to the point of being junk like he said. Thought I was going to have some cheap spare parts.

Thanks for the info, you guys really know your stuff.

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Brian

05-01-2003 05:30:18




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 Re: IH Plow Questions in reply to Brian, 04-30-2003 07:17:25  
It sounds to me like it is a 530. It is a 14" something I should have included in the first post, and I can see no evidence of it being shortened from 4 bottoms. The point and share is all one piece. I'll remove the bad one and take it to the local IH dealer and see if we can match it.

I found another plow that looks exactly like mine at a neighboring farm. It is laying on its back and the guy said it was junk. Problem is the frogs are worn out and the points and shares were welded on to make it go a couple more years. It is now to the point of being junk like he said. Thought I was going to have some cheap spare parts.

Thanks for the info, you guys really know your stuff.

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Hugh MacKay again

05-01-2003 03:18:34




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 Re: IH Plow Questions in reply to Brian, 04-30-2003 07:17:25  
Brian: In the you may have a 510 plow that some one has reduced from 4 bottom to 3, one of the identifing features of the 510 is the roughly 4" x 6" pull beam on plow that runs from the diagonal box beam across the plow beams to the hitch pivot point at front of plow. I am not so sure it is even possible to do that as that pull beam attaches back near the number 3 bottom and thus would interfere with mounting tail wheel and gauge wheel. I do remember instruction in manual on how to reduce 5 bottom to 4. May be it was also possible to reduce a 4 to a 3 as the pull beam may have been different on the 4 bottom plow.

I do know the 5 bottom 510 could be reduced to 4 bottom as manual told how and where to make changes in settings to compnsate for one less bottom. I looked at doing this with my plow after first season as I had mounted duals on my 1066 and usually spreading manure with 1066 when I wanted to be plowing. Plus the wheel setting on right of tractor had to be changed. This reduction in bottoms is much more complicated than one would first think. We had 656 hitched to plow, looking at all those changes, finally I said to my hired hand, go up and try plowing that clay hill behind the house. If 656 will plow that hill pulling 5 x 16, it will pull it anywhere on farm. 1066 was never hitched to plow again.

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Hugh MacKay

04-30-2003 16:43:13




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 Re: IH Plow Questions in reply to Brian, 04-30-2003 07:17:25  
Brian: Your plow is actually a 530. Those were the first of the IH semi-mounts. The 530 was 3 bottom, 540 was 4, 550 was 5 and 560 was 6 bottom. These plows were built through the 60s may be into 70,71. These were available as 14" or 16"

The 510 plow was actually a later model, it had a heavier frame and was available only in 4, 5 and 6 bottom models. No size designation in the model number. If I remember correctly the 510 was only available as 16" bottom.

Had your plow been a 4 bottom this would be a bit more difficult. More so than Model numbers you should have plow point, share, etc. numbers when going for parts. There were several different bottoms and all bottoms were used on all mounted, semi- mounted and trailer plows. Plows basically are custom built, model doesn't necessarily mean a lot.

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JKuhl560

04-30-2003 20:14:20




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 Re: Re: IH Plow Questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-30-2003 16:43:13  
The plow actually could be a 510 as they could come as a 3 bottom model and cam only in 16". The 4-5 bottoms could come as 16"or 18" and the 6 bottom as a 16" You could have either the Plow Chief, or the Super Plow Chief bottoms. The difference is one had a hardened seperate point and one didn't. I can't remember which one is which, but do know that the bottoms with the seperate point are getting hard to find and becoming pricy, but you can still get them. The other style bottoms are very common and less expensive.

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Hugh MacKay

05-01-2003 02:33:47




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 Re: Re: Re: IH Plow Questions in reply to JKuhl560, 04-30-2003 20:14:20  
I have a 1975 buyers guide in front of me, and yes you are right about the 18" bottoms on the 4-5 bottom models. However the sizes listed are 4, 5 and 6 bottom 16 inch; or 4 and 5 bottom 18 inch. All models have spring trip beams, automotive type tail wheel and a full size gauge wheel.

In the 1983 buyers guide after the 700 series plow came on market they show 510 as 4 or 5 bottom 16" only.

Last evening I was going from memory as I bought a new 510 5x16 in 1975. A couple of years before that I had priced a new 544, I remember 544 as being end of that line and wanted a 3x16 semi-mount plow to go with it, that would have been 1972, and 510 plow was not available as 3 bottom. I did not buy the 544 or a plow.

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JKuhl560

04-30-2003 20:12:22




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 Re: Re: IH Plow Questions in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-30-2003 16:43:13  
The plow actually could be a 510 as they could come as a 3 bottom model and cam only in 16". The 4-5 bottoms could come as 16"or 18" and the 6 bottom as a 16" You could have either the Plow Chief, or the Super Plow Chief bottoms. The difference is one had a hardened seperate point and one didn't. I can't remember which one is which, but do know that the bottoms with the seperate point are getting hard to find and becoming pricy, but you can still get them. The other style bottoms are very common and less expensive.

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