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Using a little Genius #8 2B

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Farmer in the D

04-27-2003 07:26:02




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Using my IH Little Genius #8 2 bottom behind my 90 + hp tractor has been working well. Once I figured which line to take because the wheels are so much wider than the plow, my furrows looked straighter. It releases like it should when I hit a rock or root it won't cut and other than having to get off the tractor to reset it, no problem. I have three questions. The moldboards are beginning to shine up in sandy moist soil but I am a third of the way done with the field I am doing. Is there a trick to speeding up that process. Thought I read using sandstone or a soft brick will help it along. I ask because the front plow is much cleaner of course and would like to catch the back one up. Second, does anyone have have a trick to resetting the hitch if it has tripped the spring? Sometimes it jumps off the clevis (not sure if the terms are correct) and once in awhile it snaps the hitch open too. I found that backing into the hitch will not reset it because my clevis moves from side to side (btw should it be loose and free to move on the drawbar). By pulling sharply on the spring, it jumps back where it needs to be but seems a bit dangerous when the spring compresses. Is there a trick here? Last, My furrows don't always turn all the way over. They open up and fall right back where they were. There are areas of the field where it seems to work great and others where it does this. Is it ground related or am I going too slow or what? I don't have the very top pieces on the plows. Would those help? Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate the help.

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FM

04-28-2003 08:45:18




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 Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 07:26:02  
There are several things that will cause the furrow to flip back over. If it is only the front furrow, I would say that your taking too wide of a swath. When plowing, stop and measure how much the first moldboard is cutting, then the second. They should be equal. If they are, I would just try going a little faster. With 90 HP you will nothave a problem with ponies.

Mike



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RAW in IA

04-27-2003 18:58:36




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 Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 07:26:02  
Sounds like fun. The hitch should snap back by itself if I remember right. It may need some oil in the mechanism till the rust is worn off. As for the bottoms scouring, snady soil does a good job. If you don't have any like that, try wire brushing them before going to the field, might help. When done plowing, dad used to coat ours with grease, but they have some paint for that now. Plow-coat is one name for it. Keeps them from rusting, but comes off easy next time you plow. Asfor the soil not turning over completely, might be going too slow. The old plows were usually pulled at 3-5 mph, I think. Some sod ground doesn't turn over as easily.

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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:37:10




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 Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to RAW in IA, 04-27-2003 18:58:36  

He says he dosent have the top pieces. I take that to mean the moldboards. If he dont have them , he can plow at 30 miles an hour and it wont throw over the furrows



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

04-27-2003 19:46:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:37:10  
I have the moldboards. It is the piece that bolts above that which I believe flip the furrow all the way over. I am checking with an IH dealer on Monday morning. Thanks



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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:59:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 19:46:53  

Nothing bolts above the moldboards, but the moldboards bolt above the plow shares. The plowshares point out in the front and are the first thing to touch the ground. The moldboards are 3 times bigger, hang out to the b ack and are the last thing the ground touches. I plow with a 38 F-30 which has 30+ hp and move at a fast walk and I throw furrows with my IHC plow, so u with your 90hp tractor should bew able to slingum lol if you got the moldboards. If you got the shares, but not the moldboards, the plow will enter the ground and cut a furrow. If you have the moldbvoards but not the shares, nothing will happen, it will just ride on top trhe ground

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Don-WI

04-27-2003 20:50:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:59:58  
I believe I know what he is talking about- Mine has little extenders on it, think it's bolted behind the moldbards, but it's an extra fin sticking out at the top of the moldboards and I think it's to help push the furrow over better. Maybe it's just a Wisconsin thing. :-p Donovan from Wisconsin



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Okla/kans Bill

04-28-2003 15:57:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Don-WI, 04-27-2003 20:50:05  

Nope, I know what hes talkling bout. Dont think they were used much on the older steel wheeled plows, Wernt they for throwing thick sod, and/or perhaps gumbo. But, if hes got a 90hp tractor on a 2 bottom plow, he oughta havre spped and power enpough to sling furrows, not ust turn them lol



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Don-WI

04-27-2003 20:49:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:59:58  
I believe I know what he is talking about- Mine has little extenders on it, think it's bolted behind the moldbards, but it's an extra fin sticking out at the top of the moldboards and I think it's to help push the furrow over better. Maybe it's just a Wisconsin thing. :-p Donovan from Wisconsin



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FM

04-28-2003 08:42:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Don-WI, 04-27-2003 20:49:51  
They are called Trash boards, I think. None of my little genius plows have them, and I never have much of a problem. They are mainly for when you are plowing cornstalks or similar.

Mike



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Don-WI

04-27-2003 20:49:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:59:58  
I believe I know what he is talking about- Mine has little extenders on it, think it's bolted behind the moldbards, but it's an extra fin sticking out at the top of the moldboards and I think it's to help push the furrow over better. Maybe it's just a Wisconsin thing. :-p Donovan from Wisconsin



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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:58:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 19:46:53  

Nothing bolts above the moldboards, but the moldboards bolt above the plow shares. The plowshares point out in the front and are the first thing to touch the ground. The moldboards are 3 times bigger, hang out to the b ack and are the last thing the ground touches. I plow with a 38 F-30 which has 30+ hp and move at a fast walk and I throw furrows with my IHC plow, so u with your 90hp tractor should bew able to slingum lol if you got the moldboards. If you got the shares, but not the moldboards, the plow will enter the ground and cut a furrow. If you have the moldbvoards but not the shares, nothing will happen, it will just ride on top trhe ground

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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:57:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 19:46:53  

Nothing bolts above the moldboards, but the moldboards bolt above the plow shares. The plowshares point out in the front and are the first thing to touch the ground. The moldboards are 3 times bigger, hang out to the b ack and are the last thing the ground touches. I plow with a 38 F-30 which has 30+ hp and move at a fast walk and I throw furrows with my IHC plow, so u with your 90hp tractor should bew able to slingum lol if you got the moldboards. If you got the shares, but not the moldboards, the plow will enter the ground and cut a furrow. If you have the moldbvoards but not the shares, nothing will happen, it will just ride on top trhe ground

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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:56:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 19:46:53  

Nothing bolts above the moldboards, but the moldboards bolt above the plow shares. The plowshares point out in the front and are the first thing to touch the ground. The moldboards are 3 times bigger, hang out to the b ack and are the last thing the ground touches. I plow with a 38 F-30 which has 30+ hp and move at a fast walk and I throw furrows with my IHC plow, so u with your 90hp tractor should bew able to slingum lol if you got the moldboards. If you got the shares, but not the moldboards, the plow will enter the ground and cut a furrow. If you have the moldbvoards but not the shares, nothing will happen, it will just ride on top trhe ground

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Okla/Kans Bill

04-27-2003 19:55:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 19:46:53  

Nothing bolts above the moldboards, but the moldboards bolt above the plow shares. The plowshares point out in the front and are the first thing to touch the ground. The moldboards are 3 times bigger, hang out to the b ack and are the last thing the ground touches. I plow with a 38 F-30 which has 30+ hp and move at a fast walk and I throw furrows with my IHC plow, so u with your 90hp tractor should bew able to slingum lol if you got the moldboards. If you got the shares, but not the moldboards, the plow will enter the ground and cut a furrow. If you have the moldbvoards but not the shares, nothing will happen, it will just ride on top trhe ground

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Okla/Kans Bill

04-28-2003 15:52:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:55:09  

Well, when ya geter figgered out let me know whut it twaz, outa courisity



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

04-27-2003 22:53:10




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 04-27-2003 19:55:09  
believe Donovan has what I am talking about. I saw them on another used IH plow at the dealership recently so I will ask there this week. I saw another higher post with the same plow type question and there are other suggestions I need to try on Monday. I am busting sod by the way am told I might want to disc it first. Will try that too. Thanks again. Here comes summer



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Ray in Pa.

04-28-2003 21:31:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Using a little Genius #8 2B in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 04-27-2003 22:53:10  
When using my little Genius plows, I use to have the same problem with the dirt sometimes rolling back into the furrow during plowing. In my case the plows are pretty worn and I got mine working far better by simply shimming (the top mounting bolt) the plows for more top lean. By doing the shimming method, the plows will roll the dirt over alot better. Note that when using the shimming method, be careful that you don't over tighten the mounting bolts because you could crack the plows. I would also recommend checking for loose mounting bolts of which can cause poor ground penetration by the plows, slightly narrowed furrows and incomplete dirt roll over when plowing.

Thanks, Ray in Pa.

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