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Dick Kline

04-09-2003 09:09:49




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Do all the big round balers (Not the old AC) make such huge bales? Is there some way to adjust it? Before we buy any haying equipment we want to know our options. Some of the smaller tractors just go nose up with one of those monster bales on a three point spear




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JOE in MO

04-11-2003 08:37:22




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 Re: Smaller Round Bales in reply to Dick Kline, 04-09-2003 09:09:49  
Doesnt' Hesston make a smaller round baler? I saw one hear town, that has about a 800lb bale instead of the 1600 lb normally, this is something I may be intersted in, I now run a JD 14T for my square bales, but it would be nice to do some in the smaller round bales for easier pick up, instead of bucking bales all night long



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kydavid

04-09-2003 15:54:56




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 Re: Smaller Round Bales in reply to Dick Kline, 04-09-2003 09:09:49  
We use NH 650's. At full size they make a 4' wide 6' high. I chose to get a second 650 because they will make a 4'x4' just as well as a 4x6. As tight as you want. We do custom work, sell hay, and stack a lot in barns. Custom bales and sold bales here bring the almost the same amt, regardless of size or density. I normally run a 4x4 for sale or custom work at 1100 psi, 4x6 at 1600 psi for outside stored, and 4x5 at 1600 psi for barn stored. Takes less than a minute to change the sizes.

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mikeinmo

04-09-2003 19:44:28




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 Re: Re: Smaller Round Bales in reply to kydavid, 04-09-2003 15:54:56  
You mentioned that a bale brings the same amount regardless of size. I also do custom work and sell quite a bit of hay also. Hardly anyone in my area wants to buy or sell hay anymore by the bale, everything is done by the ton and we take a random load of hay to town and run it across the scales. Another point from the custom baling point of view, I run a 664 NH myself and adjusting the size on the auto-wrap is very simple. If a customer wants smaller bales though I tell them it is the same price per bale regardless of size. Nobody objects. If you think about it you use more twine, it takes longer to cover the same amount of acres, and the tailgate is always in the air. Just my point of view from here in MO. God Bless

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kydavid

04-09-2003 19:50:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Smaller Round Bales in reply to mikeinmo, 04-09-2003 19:44:28  
Wish more people here would buy by the ton. Tried to push that for a couple of years, almost couldn't sell any hay. My bale density was a lot higher than the competition and they always asked for a bale price. If I was $1.00 more on the roll it didn't sell. I had to cut density and size on my rolls, and shorten my squares to 36" just to stay competitive. Sold 10K squares and 1K rolls last year and only had 1 customer who bought 800 squares buy by the ton.

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jls

04-10-2003 20:09:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Smaller Round Bales in reply to kydavid, 04-09-2003 19:50:58  
sell most hay to horse people so logic goes out the door!LOL. I use a NI 4643 that makes a 4X4 bale( don't laugh, it was cheaper new than a used NH) fresh and new bales are 5 to 700 lb. after they have set for a week or two my ynmar 2000 will handle em on a spear. about 20 or 23 hp. smaller bales work good for just a few horses, they can clean em up before they get weathered when you feed em in winter,

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Terry in KY

04-09-2003 12:22:23




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 Re: Smaller Round Bales in reply to Dick Kline, 04-09-2003 09:09:49  
On most balers you can make them smaller in diameter. Obviously, you can't change the width. If the baler has manual tie, you just stop whenever it's as big as you want and tie it. On the newer balers with automatic tie, you can preset the diameter and the buzzer will go off and it will tie at that point. Each brand of baler is a little different. The only one I know of that is a little different is some of the Case-IH balers. They kind of mash the hay together for the first half of the bale and then start to roll. If the bale isn't full enough for the baler to start the rolling, they don't stay together very good.

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