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Looking for small grain harvesting machine

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BlueLite

03-31-2003 16:50:05




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Is there a baler sized machine that can run off a PTO that will reap,thresh,winnow in one operation chucking out the straw at the same time?. I'm not talking about the story high combines of the prairies, but a small one.

The grain doesn't have to be that clean either just for livestock not for flour.

Thanks.




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Okla/Kans Bill

04-03-2003 20:26:02




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 Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 16:50:05  

I paid $500 for my 2 All Crop ACs here in Okla and they were shot, but they were close. One was restorable, one was junk. I didnt know which one which was which. I finally got one running and during using it the bearings one one side of the shaker went out. WQell nothing to do but put the other shaker in, and I did it in one day, but if you had asked me to do it asny other time Ida told you u were nuts. What Im trying to say, is, if you are not an excewllent mavchanic, or want to be, dont mess with an untried combine. If you find one. Grease the living swell out of it, every time you use it, and especially the chains and bearings. Put up the canvis in a safe dry rodent proof area. ( my dad and grandad would hang their binder canvasis from a length of bailer wire down in the tractort shed (at least that was what it was called by the time I came along) and not let it touvh the ground by 3ft). Make sure you get the canvasis with it. If they are in really good shape, chances are the combine is also. If they are rotton, patched, ripped or the wood splints broken, RUN. You will need a minimum 30hp tractor to pull one with any speed and it not slow down and clog up the combine. If you can find one with an engine, in good shape, grab it, as then you could pull one with an 8N Ford ( on level ground).

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Larry

04-01-2003 05:38:37




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 Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 16:50:05  
In answer to your question, yes there are still small combines around, at least around here in Central Pa.
Avilability of parts is a consideration, and timely harvest is too. Going rate for custom combining in our area is about $20.00 acre. On small acerages it doesn't pay to store and keep up even a small combine, plus the gamble of major breakdowns mid harvest. If however you enjoy running the old equipment check the farm auctions and equipment for sale ads, you can probably find one to fit your needs.

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Larry

04-01-2003 05:34:56




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 Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 16:50:05  
In answer to your question, yes there are still small combines around, at least around here in Central Pa.
Avilability of parts is a consideration, and timely harvest is too. Going rate for custom combining in our area is about $20.00 acre. On small acerages it doesn't pay to store and keep up even a small combine, plus the gamble of major breakdowns mid harvest. If however you enjoy running the old equipment check the farm auctions and equipment for sale ads, you can probably find one to fit your needs.

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paul

03-31-2003 18:20:15




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 Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 16:50:05  
Well, you list a whole lot of operations, it takes a good sized machine to do all that! :) I bet you'll be directed to some good pull-type combines, but they need a 60+" feeder, and some room to do all that thrashing & seperating, and a hopper to hold enough grain for 1 round at least...

--->Paul



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BlueLite

03-31-2003 19:09:23




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 Re: Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to paul, 03-31-2003 18:20:15  
Thanks Paul

Yeah well I don't know much about these machines. I only know that 40 years ago they were as tall as a house. So I figured maybe technology made them smaller these days.



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INCase

04-01-2003 05:30:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 19:09:23  
This may not be the way you want to go, but There are alot of old pull type combines out there, like for instance the AC one mentioned above. Almost all the major equipment companies made one of some type.. I knew of a couple IH units in SW Mich. that were for sale?? maybe one at auction in NE Ohio in May?? I'd look at the AC though... they "seem" to be the most popular. However... I would buy 2.. one to use.. one for parts.. belts and chains I wouldn't worry about as you can retrofit.. other things... well.. maybe you can make them... I've seen these units go for $1 to $25 (scrap price) as there isn't much demand and many (not all) are sitting outside... MF still makes a small specialty self propelled (about the size of an IH 101). It is pretty much only used by "Seed" companies for plot test ect. (some flower seed companies may harvest with them) Your still talking alot of $$ even for a used one GOOD LUCK finding one though (they are built in Europe I belive). Good luck.

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INCase

04-01-2003 05:29:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 19:09:23  
This may not be the way you want to go, but There are alot of old pull type combines out there, like for instance the AC one mentioned above. Almost all the major equipment companies made one of some type.. I knew of a couple IH units in SW Mich. that were for sale?? maybe one at auction in NE Ohio in May?? I'd look at the AC though... they "seem" to be the most popular. However... I would buy 2.. one to use.. one for parts.. belts and chains I wouldn't worry about as you can retrofit.. other things... well.. maybe you can make them... I've seen these units go for $1 to $25 (scrap price) as there isn't much demand and many (not all) are sitting outside... MF still makes a small specialty self propelled (about the size of an IH 101). It is pretty much only used by "Seed" companies for plot test ect. (some flower seed companies may harvest with them) Your still talking alot of $$ even for a used one GOOD LUCK finding one though (they are built in Europe I belive). Good luck.

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paul

03-31-2003 20:42:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 19:09:23  
As Tim said, the other way around. No mass-market pull types being made. The new 'small' selfpropelled ones are about 20' headers, and the big ones get close to a 40' header on some. 8-12 row corn heads. They can push 4,000 bu an hour out of the field. Have to fold the tops to fit in 16' shed.

There isn't anything small.....

--->Paul



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Tim(nj)

03-31-2003 20:35:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Looking for small grain harvesting machine in reply to BlueLite, 03-31-2003 19:09:23  
Try the other way around. Combines just get bigger and bigger. There are no small combines being made today for the mass market. There are small plot combines available, intended for research use, but these are built one-at-a-time and are just as expensive as a big one. You'll probably be directed to an older pull-type like an All-Crop 72 from Allis-Chalmers, but the problems with all the old machines is parts are getting scarce.

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