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Farmer in the D

03-26-2003 17:04:45




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have an Oliver 1850 Perkins Diesel which dynos at 92 hp. Am looking for suggestions as to type and size of best plow to pull behind it. Want to work it but not overwork it so a smaller one is ok. What would be the largest one to pull without overworking it?




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Dave, Sherburne, NY

03-29-2003 11:14:25




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 Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-26-2003 17:04:45  
There are solid beams no trip cheapest,not good in rocky ground. There are trip beams, you hit a rock they trip , and you have to back up to reset. There are spring reset, hit a rock they trip and reset themselves, no backing up. I'd go for spring reset. COULTERS are also very important GOOD ones are expensive.



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

03-27-2003 15:25:44




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 Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-26-2003 17:04:45  
We are mostly sandy loam in this area. my particular piece is pretty rocky or so I am told from previous history. Thanks for the suggestions. Will be looking in the near future for a plow. Are the spring reset plows much more expensive to buy vs the old style? Am I looking for a drawbar type or semi-mount?



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evielboweviel

03-30-2003 18:05:18




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 Re: Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-27-2003 15:25:44  
semimount
White spring reset 5-18 spring trip coulters good condition will bring about 900 to 1200 at TriGreens Auction in London Ohio. Oliver toggle trip will bring about 300 to 550. prices for J.D. and International less. Even J.D. people will say Oliver/White plow pulls easier.



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Don-WI

03-27-2003 21:04:17




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 Re: Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-27-2003 15:25:44  
You want a semi-mounted, easier to control. Once you get to a certain age, there really isn't much of a price difference. My 565 is supposed to be spring trip, but it seems a little rusted up, because it hasn't tripped for as long as I can rermember, and my dad only made it trip atleast 15 years ago. I always grease it, but it sits outside and that don't help it any.



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

03-28-2003 04:46:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Don-WI, 03-27-2003 21:04:17  
and there is a spring reset or auto reset available too. Is that what I should be looking for?



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Don-WI

03-28-2003 22:15:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-28-2003 04:46:16  
Im not sure of the differences between the 2. On ours I guess you just back up and it resets itself. You probably should look for one like this, otherwise you may bust a share easier. (I usually take off the back share point on a tree root.)Also, don't forget, if you don't have the balls for the 3pt arms, you have to buy them at the agco dealer, or you could try a boneyard, but that would be a rare find. Most farmers hold onto them when they get rid of their ollie.

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Don-WI

03-27-2003 21:03:58




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 Re: Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-27-2003 15:25:44  
You want a semi-mounted, easier to control. Once you get to a certain age, there really isn't much of a price difference. My 565 is supposed to be spring trip, but it seems a little rusted up, because it hasn't tripped for as long as I can rermember, and my dad only made it trip atleast 15 years ago. I always grease it, but it sits outside and that don't help it any.



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evielboweviel

03-27-2003 07:04:31




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 Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-26-2003 17:04:45  
My uncle pulled a White plow, 4-18 10" deep 4.5 mph in Ohio. Slowed down for clay knobs. Prefered to plow when ground was frozen on top 1-2" deep. Had a 1650 with Oliver plow 4-16 8-9" deep before that, run 2cd low or 1st direct. I believe you could pull a White 5-18 good or a 4-18 with high speed bottoms. recomen spring trip coulters and spring reset bottoms.



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JMS/MN

03-26-2003 21:48:47




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 Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-26-2003 17:04:45  
There is no reason why you can't pull a 4-18s in anything but the worst of soils. When the 1800 came out in central Mn the dealers were calling it a 6-16 on clay ground. But really, when you drop it down at today's plowing depth, it will handle a 4-18, just like the 4020 did.



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Don-WI

03-26-2003 19:52:30




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 Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-26-2003 17:04:45  
Your 1850 should be able to pull atleast a 4-16, I can pull a 3-16 with my 1755 in heavy red clay near Appleton, Aren't the Dell's sandy? Atleast thats what I've always thought. If thats the case you could probably pull a 5-18. I know someone who had a 4-16 365 Oliver plow and pulled it no problem with their 1755 in loose, sandy soil. bogged down a little in heavy soil, but shifted down and could pull it through. Best plowing rig you can have is an Ollie and matching Ollie plow. They are really made for each other and will do a much better job than an IH plow will.
Donovan from WI

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Tim(nj)

03-26-2003 17:43:34




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 Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Farmer in the Dells (WI), 03-26-2003 17:04:45  
I used to pull a 4-16" with my JD 4020 (90HP). Pulled real easy most of the time, but was just right for those really hard spots. What kind of soil do you have? Ours is heavy clay.



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Bruce

03-27-2003 16:29:31




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 Re: Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Tim(nj), 03-26-2003 17:43:34  
You should be able to pull a 4-16 with no problem. If you are interested in purchasing a plow in the near future I have a oliver 4-16 for sale. Email me at [email protected]



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Bruce

03-27-2003 16:28:52




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 Re: Re: Oliver plow help in reply to Tim(nj), 03-26-2003 17:43:34  
You should be able to pull a 4-16 with no problem. If you are interested in purchasing a plow in the near future I have a oliver 4-16 for sale. Email me at [email protected]



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