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NH 68 Plunger Bushings

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Kelly C

03-16-2003 05:05:06




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I noticed when I was putting the new bearings on my plunger there was a slight amount of play in the connecting rod at the plunger.
I suspect that the bushings may be worn. Any of you guys ever replace these bushings?
also how much play is ok if any?




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More info--Kelly C

03-16-2003 15:11:53




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 Re: NH 68 Plunger Bushings in reply to Kelly C, 03-16-2003 05:05:06  
I mesured the side to side play in the connecting rod. It moved 10/16th of a inch on the working baler. I pulled the plunger out of my parts machine. I mesured the side to side play on this one. It moved 5/16th of a inch.
Needless to say the connecting rod on the original plunger is worn out.
What I need to know from you guys in the know.
Can I live with that 5/16th inch of play or should I put new bushings in?

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More-- Kelly C

03-16-2003 15:16:11




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 Re: Re: NH 68 Plunger Bushings in reply to More info--Kelly C, 03-16-2003 15:11:53  
Oh I mesured the play at the end of the connecting rod where it connectes to the bearing.



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paul

03-17-2003 13:32:46




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 Re: Re: Re: NH 68 Plunger Bushings in reply to More-- Kelly C, 03-16-2003 15:16:11  
I'm a little lost. Too many bearings & bushings.... ;)

On my 270 baler, there is an arm coming off the gearbox. That arm connects to a rod with a fairly short pin. The other end of the rod connects to the plunger itself, with a rather long pin.

Now, which connection has a 1/2" of side to side play? Could it be taken up with washers?

And what is the back & forth slop in both ends of that plunger rod?

Since you replaced the wood slides, I'll assume they are not a part of this whole bearing/ bushing/ 1/2" problem, but you are talking about one end or other of the actual connecting rod.

--->Paul

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Kelly C

03-17-2003 19:39:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: NH 68 Plunger Bushings in reply to paul, 03-17-2003 13:32:46  
The play is in the bushings at the back of the plunger were the connecting rod connects to it.
I called NH they have the bushings in stock. So I might as well replace them.
I just need to know how that pin comes out and then how to remove and then replace the bushings.



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kydavid

03-16-2003 07:35:59




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 Re: NH 68 Plunger Bushings in reply to Kelly C, 03-16-2003 05:05:06  
Kelly C,

First of all, I am no NH square baler mechanic. I would expect that you want no play at the plunger bearings. No reason to use a bearing and a bushing. Both do the same thing. Sounds like a receipe for disaster. Bearings are designed to roll. You didn't specify if the play was at the outter race (plunger) or inner race (pin). Play at either will transfer tremendous shock loads to the races and face areas. I would expect rapid failure of the races. Sounds like someone has spun a bearing at some point and either worn the pin down or wallowed out the plunger housing. That may take some serious repairs. I would invest in them. Breaking a plunger pin is no fun, did that in 1985 on my 336 JD. Plunger went all the way into the needle mechanism. Broke both needles, bent the needle frame, broke a knotter, and did $500 worth of damage to the plunger.

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Kelly C

03-16-2003 12:20:38




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 Re: Re: NH 68 Plunger Bushings in reply to kydavid, 03-16-2003 07:35:59  
The bearings I was refering to are the wood slide rail bearings.
The bushings I am refering to are behind the plunger that the shaft attaches to. The parts book shows 2 bushings one on each side of the pin.

I spose if no play allowed I better get at it. Not sure how the pin comes out. Then getting the old bushing out might be fun.

I think I am going to pull the plunger out of my parts machine and take a look at it. May be I get lucky and that one has no play.

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kydavid

03-17-2003 18:11:20




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 Re: Re: Re: NH 68 Plunger Bushings in reply to Kelly C, 03-16-2003 12:20:38  
My mental pic is clearer now. Not sure on this # (the mind is the second thing to go, I forgot the first) but thinking that the general NH spec on high speed bushings is .050" play new and .200" play to replace. Either case looks like you need bushings. Would sure want to put calipers on the pin, check to spec.



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