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Okla/Kans Bill

03-14-2003 17:44:56




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Make sure that you have some device that will lightly, but thourgly cover your corn after the planter has planted it. I mght suggest a pipe hung down with chains that either goes clear across the back of the planter, or, I thinbk, better, 2 lengths of pipe that stretych across both rows. I just came in from harrowing my cor to cover a small bit of it that I saw on top of the ground, and a very few stretvches of say 5 to 10ft where the corn lay in rows. I may have should have used a length of pipe say 20ft long hooked to a chain and drug it across the field to get less dirt on the corn than I fear I have put on. Hopfdull about all that will happen is a slow and ueven emergence. Not to mention the gas and time involved. All you small farmers like me putting out 10 or less acres of corn need to go to an antique store and buy as many hand planters as you dont want to hav to walk the entire field replanting skips. I was going to buy 3, one for me and 2 for my kids to help me as myfeet and ankles are shot. Take some seed corn with you to make sure they work before you buy them. They run around $25ea down here in Okeland, but the peop;le by and large are to lazy to ever use them or even know what they are(were)

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Rob in Ohio

03-16-2003 06:58:46




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 Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 03-14-2003 17:44:56  
One quick question, what type fertilizer do you guy`s use on sweet corn.



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r whittington

02-01-2004 17:43:32




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 Re: Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Rob in Ohio, 03-16-2003 06:58:46  
I live in california ,I want to plant some sweet corn,but for the last two years its no good.I don't know what I am doing but would like to learn.If you can gave me any help on, where to get some good seeds, planting ect.If not maybe you can get me to another web sight I will get you a beer

Thanks R whittington



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Ol Peddler

03-15-2003 13:59:12




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 Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 03-14-2003 17:44:56  
I planted two small fields of self-pollinating corn last year for the first time. Didn't get a good stand on the first field but the second one did ok. Just going to plant the second field this year and use a better planter.



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John A.

03-15-2003 06:13:00




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 Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 03-14-2003 17:44:56  
Okla/Kans Bill, I was reading your Corn 101 & 103, I concur with your never back up with the planter in the down position. But I don't follow this pipe thing. Haveing planted thousands of acres of corn and milo. With a 6 row 500 & 900 IH airplanters On row watered and center pivot irrigation ground.
Also dryland milo (lister planting) /w a JD58.
In the Okla panhandle 35 mi w. of Guymon,OK. On ridge planding we didn't drag any thing, for it would tear doen the beds and we couldn't run water down it. On flat ground still no drags pulled .I would submit to you if, the seed is not being covered the problem would lie in one or more things. 1. Seed bed prep.,too cloddy, too much trash/size of trash. Neew to plow MORE.
2 Covering disk & Presswheels on planter not set correctly.
3 Tractor speed is too fast, Slow down!
This is IMO With Narural Gas @ 9.00/thousand any unnessary trips across you land WILL effect you bottom line.
Good Luck.
John A

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Okla/Kans Bill

03-15-2003 17:22:38




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 Re: Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to John A., 03-15-2003 06:13:00  

Well, John A. From alla your experience, you dont sound like youve put in too many acres with a horse planter, and that is practically what this is. It looks exactly like a horse planter cept the wheels are smaller, there is no seat nor lifting handle, and it has a rope trip lift. Probably come out of the 30s and 40s IHC. I plow around 4/5in deep andthis was one of the best plowings ive did, and it does get better every year. I double disced it with a 16ft IHC disc and then harrowed it with a 2section harrow. Shoulda put on my other section. Been quicker. But the ground was perfect, but a bit on the damp/moist side. Im in Crock, er Crack, er Crook, I mean Creek County Okla, and the ground is bottom ground and sandy somwhat. I think if the ground had been drier I would have got a better covering.eing slightly moist it clung to itself somwhat.

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Ray in Pa.

03-14-2003 21:31:20




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 Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 03-14-2003 17:44:56  
Okla/Kans Bill, I like all that good advice about planting corn. I've been planting sweet corn for about 10 years and never knew about the fender type sheild that you and everyone else have suggested using on the cultivators. I wasn't exactly sure about if you meant that the fenders should be angled in or out in the trailing edge (the furthest back part of the fender). I also was curious as to how close to the corn plant do you cultivate and how deep do you generally cultivate. I also have had the same problem as you when planting corn with my poor planting quality JD corn planter in that a rock or harder section of dirt will occasionally leave corn seed uncovered.

Thanks Ray in Pa.

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Okla/Kans Bill

03-15-2003 17:44:15




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 Re: Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Ray in Pa., 03-14-2003 21:31:20  

Hey Ray. What I ment was to angle the corners on the front and back bottom of the shield so that they could ride/glide over anthing should they have to rather than prersent a pointed corner to an obstical. No, The fenders go straight up and down, straight forward and backward. They dont throw ground toward the pant, npor do they throw any away. There sole purpose is to help deflect clods or stones rolling toward the corn plant, to stop there motion and hopfully when passed leave the clod/stone where it was when it was stopped by the shield. I try to stay around---I just went out and measured my schovels on my cultivator. It is a 2 row Case, made for a DC but it fits perfectly with my CC. there are 4 shovels in the front, 2 on a side, one on each side of a row, and 9 in back. The front 2 rows of shovels are spaced 20in apart. That sounds like alot, but understand, the corn stalk itself at that stage will take up round 2in. The spreading root structure will take up 4in at least in all directions, so theres 10in (assuming) in the plant/root structure itslf. That leaves me 5in each side to twist and turn and fight to follow the rows. DO NOT THINK YOU WILL GO SAILING UP THE ROWS INNA STRAIGHT LINE WITH YOUR CULTIVATORS SET 2IN FROM THE PLANT ON EACH SIDE. IT WONT HAPPEN. You will need room to swing and sway, and youll find that out when your doing it. My CC sets closer than any 30+hp tractror then or after made up into the 50s (late). I like it better than a DC which replaced it in the 40s for that reason, tho it does tend to get stuck when it get high centered easily, and so thats why i do my plowing with an 37 F 30. my point is I am a good 2ft lower on it than I would be on my 30, or on a JD A or IHC M and still, I need that distance to keep from cutting corn early. Also remember, that the leaves are spreading, and they will shade the ground and hender the weeds ect growing near the stalk. BUT, try it and see, you wont know until you do. Good luck

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Ray in Pa.

03-15-2003 21:38:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 03-15-2003 17:44:15  
Thanks Okla/Kans Bill, My cultivator spacing is around 20" also. With my old international cultivators, I kinda have to take into account for a little side to side play that they naturally have also. When trying to control weeds, my biggest problem is Ragweed here in South/Western Pa.. It seems like fertilizer that helps make corn grow better, will also help make Ragweed grow faster and better. If I could sell Ragweed, I would really make out since too much of my Silver Queen corn would get stifled to only 5' to 6' tall while the Ragweed has gotten as big as 9' tall. Not to mention the horrible pollen from these weeds when picking corn. I don't really want to have to spray, But I'm not sure how to control this problem. Maybe some out there has some ideas on this one, for the cultivating seems to miss too many of them near the corn plant.

Thanks, Ray in Pa.

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Tim(nj)

03-16-2003 12:21:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Ray in Pa., 03-15-2003 21:38:01  
Sometimes it helps to rotate out of corn and put a dense cover crop on for a year. Neighbors used to plant sudan grass on the field with a drill and let it get really tall to smother weeds, then shred it and plow it under in the fall. Then they'd drill winter rye on the field, and in the spring they'd plow that under and plant sweet corn. Still had weeds but didn't seem to be as bad as a field that was constantly in corn. Also helped build up the clay a little bit plowing all that stuff under.

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Okla/kans Bill

03-16-2003 05:02:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Ray in Pa., 03-15-2003 21:38:01  

Ray, as it wa told to me, People who grow sweet corn use a weed killer called Pounce. Thats bout all I can tell you cept, If I had been born raised where u are, I woulda been daid 50 yrs ago as I had asthma up till round 10 yrs ago, and what ragweed we had in Kansas about did me in



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Ray in Pa.

03-16-2003 20:41:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Okla/kans Bill, 03-16-2003 05:02:33  
Thanks Okla/Kans Bill and Tim(nj) for the interesting information. I use to think that the sweet corn pollen was bad enough when picking corn, But this Ragweed pollen makes any corn pollen seem clean in comparison. This Ragweed pollen will occasionally be so bad that it will cover me in yellow and can just about ruin the lungs, eyes and nose. I think that maybe I should try do like Tim(nj) suggested, for this might be away to shut down some of the Ragweed seed to prevent it from reseeding. This problem started about 3 years because that one year I was unable to cultivate the corn for weeks due to persistant rain and very wet dirt. This gave the Ragweed time to get a foot hold and go to seed in the corn patch.

Thanks, Ray in Pa.

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Ray in Pa.

03-14-2003 21:30:54




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 Re: Planting corn 103 in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 03-14-2003 17:44:56  
Okla/Kans Bill, I like all that good advice about planting corn. I've been planting sweet corn for about 10 years and never knew about the fender type sheild that you and everyone else have suggested using on the cultivators. I wasn't exactly sure about if you meant that the fenders should be angled in or out in the trailing edge (the furthest back part of the fender). I also was curious as to how close to the corn plant do you cultivate and how deep do you generally cultivate. I also have had the same problem as you when planting corn with my poor planting quality JD corn planter in that a rock or harder section of dirt will occasionally leave corn seed uncovered.

Thank Ray in Pa.

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