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Ron

01-24-2003 06:33:28




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JD "Sidewinder Baler"..... Is there ANYONE out there using one.??? Just curious....we really did like them... NO wear on the drawbar, or transmission as the baler doesent rock against the tractor.. Was Great for Custom work...would really "punch" out the bales...as HEAVY as you wanted...!!! I hope there are some still working....!! Ron.




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Ron

01-26-2003 20:56:42




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 Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 06:33:28  
Big Bear farms were on the West side of Powell...about 10 miles South of Delaware, Ohio...now a housing development...

Our Baler went to near Plain City...Don't think it is used anymore...may be available, not sure...

As for the splicing...I can describe it.....pretty straight forward on the top coils...just splice after the knotter.. For the bottom coils, you have to stop the baler JUST as the needles are ready to start down, after it has tied a bale, pull out about 18" of wire from the old coil and cut the coil free and remove it. Tie the end of the wire to the bottom of the needles. Take ONE wire tie off the coil, and start it into the box,then take the other ties off, one at a time, as you slide it into the box. There is a right way, and a wrong way..watch it.!! Roll the flywheel, to run the needles down. Pull some wire thru the needles at the top, where the wire is going on the bale.( that is where you will tie the splice). Cut the rest loose and remove it from the needle. Pull the wire out of the needle ( unthread it), pull enough wire out of the new coil to rethread the needle, and tie them together ABOVE the needle. Use a knot made with a loop in each wire end, so the tail wraps around it's own wire, and BEND the end back on the twisted wire when you are done twisting, cut off the excess..then it WON'T come untied. (about 4 turns). That does it...!!!

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Ron

01-26-2003 20:56:12




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 Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 06:33:28  
Big Bear farms were on the West side of Powell...about 10 miles South of Delaware, Ohio...now a housing development...

Our Baler went to near Plain City...Don't think it is used anymore...may be available, not sure...

As for the splicing...I can describe it.....pretty straight forward on the top coils...just splice after the knotter.. For the bottom coils, you have to stop the baler JUST as the needles are ready to start down, after it has tied a bale, pull out about 18" of wire from the old coil and cut the coil free and remove it. Tie the end of the wire to the bottom of the needles. Take ONE wire tie off the coil, and start it into the box,then take the other ties off, one at a time, as you slide it into the box. There is a right way, and a wrong way..watch it.!! Roll the flywheel, to run the needles down. Pull some wire thru the needles at the top, where the wire is going on the bale.( that is where you will tie the splice). Cut the rest loose and remove it from the needle. Pull the wire out of the needle ( unthread it), pull enough wire out of the new coil to rethread the needle, and tie them together ABOVE the needle. Use a knot made with a loop in each wire end, so the tail wraps around it's own wire, and BEND the end back on the twisted wire when you are done twisting, cut off the excess..then it WON'T come untied. (about 4 turns). That does it...!!!

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Ron

01-26-2003 20:55:56




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 Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 06:33:28  
Big Bear farms were on the West side of Powell...about 10 miles South of Delaware, Ohio...now a housing development...

Our Baler went to near Plain City...Don't think it is used anymore...may be available, not sure...

As for the splicing...I can describe it.....pretty straight forward on the top coils...just splice after the knotter.. For the bottom coils, you have to stop the baler JUST as the needles are ready to start down, after it has tied a bale, pull out about 18" of wire from the old coil and cut the coil free and remove it. Tie the end of the wire to the bottom of the needles. Take ONE wire tie off the coil, and start it into the box,then take the other ties off, one at a time, as you slide it into the box. There is a right way, and a wrong way..watch it.!! Roll the flywheel, to run the needles down. Pull some wire thru the needles at the top, where the wire is going on the bale.( that is where you will tie the splice). Cut the rest loose and remove it from the needle. Pull the wire out of the needle ( unthread it), pull enough wire out of the new coil to rethread the needle, and tie them together ABOVE the needle. Use a knot made with a loop in each wire end, so the tail wraps around it's own wire, and BEND the end back on the twisted wire when you are done twisting, cut off the excess..then it WON'T come untied. (about 4 turns). That does it...!!!

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Ron

01-26-2003 20:55:49




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 Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 06:33:28  
Big Bear farms were on the West side of Powell...about 10 miles South of Delaware, Ohio...now a housing development...

Our Baler went to near Plain City...Don't think it is used anymore...may be available, not sure...

As for the splicing...I can describe it.....pretty straight forward on the top coils...just splice after the knotter.. For the bottom coils, you have to stop the baler JUST as the needles are ready to start down, after it has tied a bale, pull out about 18" of wire from the old coil and cut the coil free and remove it. Tie the end of the wire to the bottom of the needles. Take ONE wire tie off the coil, and start it into the box,then take the other ties off, one at a time, as you slide it into the box. There is a right way, and a wrong way..watch it.!! Roll the flywheel, to run the needles down. Pull some wire thru the needles at the top, where the wire is going on the bale.( that is where you will tie the splice). Cut the rest loose and remove it from the needle. Pull the wire out of the needle ( unthread it), pull enough wire out of the new coil to rethread the needle, and tie them together ABOVE the needle. Use a knot made with a loop in each wire end, so the tail wraps around it's own wire, and BEND the end back on the twisted wire when you are done twisting, cut off the excess..then it WON'T come untied. (about 4 turns). That does it...!!!

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Hugh MacKay

01-25-2003 19:02:33




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 Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 06:33:28  
If you guys know where there is an extra one, I have been looking close to ten years. e-mail me.



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Hugh MacKay

01-25-2003 19:02:11




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 Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 06:33:28  
If you guys know where there is an extra one, I have been looking close to ten years. e-mail me.



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Mguy

01-24-2003 08:57:43




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 Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 06:33:28  
Ron , if you're talkin' about a 116W, yes, Ive got one that still sees some use. A while back a guy offered me some straw ,but 55 cents in the windrow. Problem? No way,took the wire baler to the field.Itll punch out 70 pounders. Ifigured they were worth 55 cents. My 14T wont or cant make them that heavy. Mguy.



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Ron

01-24-2003 20:14:33




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 Re: Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Mguy, 01-24-2003 08:57:43  
Yea.!! Dad used to bale for the " Big Bear Farms", here in Ohio--they had the football teams work, picking them up... he would crank the tensions down....!!! Then, Dad would throw the tie bales on top from the ground...it let the boys know they had some more work to do to be able to do that.!! ( His friends called him 'Bruiser'!!) The folks showed JD how the coils could be spliced, so it didn;t have to be threaded at the end of each coil... If it ever get's to breaking the sprocket on the second feed...check the pins on the bottom feed, opposite end...!! What a baler.!! Great design.!! Sure was a big improvement over the old Case baler..!! And I didn't have to poke or tie the wires anymore.!!

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Leroy

01-26-2003 07:18:08




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 Re: Re: Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Ron, 01-24-2003 20:14:33  
Am from Ohio, where are the big bear farms? I need that information on how to splice the wires as I have 2 of them, both early and late versions, nothing to bale tho and just run them at machinery shows for display.



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Ron

01-24-2003 20:14:13




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 Re: Re: JD Sidewinder Baler...... in reply to Mguy, 01-24-2003 08:57:43  
Yea.!! Dad used to bale for the " Big Bear Farms", here in Ohio--they had the football teams work, picking them up... he would crank the tensions down....!!! Then, Dad would throw the tie bales on top from the ground...it let the boys know they had some more work to do to be able to do that.!! ( His friends called him 'Bruiser'!!) The folks showed JD how the coils could be spliced, so it didn;t have to be threaded at the end of each coil... If it ever get's to breaking the sprocket on the second feed...check the pins on the bottom feed, opposite end...!! What a baler.!! Great design.!! Sure was a big improvement over the old Case baler..!! And I didn't have to poke or tie the wires anymore.!!

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