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Oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more

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Okla/Kans Bill

01-10-2003 18:49:09




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I was just wondering what the oldest bailer was that was still used on at least 5 acres or more. Im not counting those used in threshing shows or suchlike that only bale a hudred bales or so, but those that bail at least a hundred bales per cutting. Ive got a 1960 Case 140 W engne bailer, but I get the idea there are some side shooter J Ds still in use and some old 45 & 50 T & W IHC bailers still working. I once saw a MM Bailer that must of had a 100 sprokets gears actuating rods ect all over the top side of the chamber.

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Boomer

01-17-2003 18:26:06




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
I still use a '51 Freeman #25, was and still is a great old twine machine, heavy, but pulls well with a '56 IH 300



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Josh

01-14-2003 21:56:03




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
New Holland 66 PTO on a 1950 Farmall H. Works great. close to 3000 bales a year.



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Joe in MO

01-13-2003 10:30:27




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
I use my JD 14t, on my 20 acres and also bale another 15 on shares for my neighbor, still works good, I hope to rebuild a old hay wagon and hook it up behind this year.



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lc

01-12-2003 18:31:53




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
My Case 130('58?) ran about 3000 bales this year.



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Okla/Kans Bill

01-12-2003 18:46:52




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 Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to lc, 01-12-2003 18:31:53  

engine or PTO? What years did they make the 140 W or T and the 160 W & T. ive got both decals on a 2 different places. mines a 1960, which means it could be as old as 58



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lc

01-13-2003 20:50:40




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 Re: Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-12-2003 18:46:52  
Mines an engine run job, same as a buddies' 130. His is a bit different though. Mine has a factory guard that keeps the hay from falling off the right(from the rear) of the pickup chain. His is pretty open and he added one to slow the losses. The only thing I know about the year is that someone from here told me they thought it musta been a '58 or 9. I'm a '58 model myself so it must be too. :>)

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Errin OH

01-12-2003 05:43:17




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
Ford 14-80, 53-55, pulled behind a 53 NAA. Put up 300 bales in two cuttings. A little quriky though. At 70-80 bales gotta stop and regrease the knotters or it will miss every time.??? But got it cheap, $100 & $40 worth of pick up teeth. Figure its just about paid for itself now.



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Okla/Kans Bill

01-12-2003 12:36:52




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 Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Errin OH, 01-12-2003 05:43:17  

Errin OH. I may be able to help u with your proble, (or may not lol) My60 Case 140W bailer has a lot of things in cmmon with a neighbors old Ford bailer I noticed. Anyway, I had the same problem. I got to where I could bale around 2 doz balezs then I would take neverseez and put it on a shaft, that on one end had an aluminum hook. There were 2 of these, one for each wire> Well, there was a small rod aroud 3/8th dia with a slghtly bent piece about 1 1/2 in from the end. The wire went around the shaft with the help of the hook in the operation of knotting. I finally took off the small 3/8th rods and found they were mis bent and had wire grooves cut in them. I found 2 new ones and replaced them. My daughter was going to pay $4 00 per bale for hay, and I had some dried grass and so I cut and baled it. I baled 32 bales with 2 missing up, one wire got hooked on the b ale chamber back ramp chain hook and came off, and another one messed up but ive forgotton how, but none of them by the kn otter. The bailer hadnt been run in 5 years. If you have the same type of setup u might try replacing those 3/8th rods and see what happens. Good luck Bill

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Andrew from KY

01-11-2003 16:52:37




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
A guy I know used a 14T John Deere every year until last year when they bought a 336. The 14T worked fine but it just got to be too much of a hassle to run on about 70 acres of alfalfa, it just got to be too slow. He still has it and would probably sell it if anybody is interested.



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Andrew from KY

01-11-2003 16:51:57




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
A guy I know used a 14T John Deere every year until last year when they bought a 336. The 14T worked fine but it just got to be too much of a hassle to run on about 70 acres of alfalfa, it just got to be too slow. He still has it and would probably sell it if anybody is interested.



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TP from Central PA

01-11-2003 11:28:48




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
We used a NH Super 77 up until last year when my landlords sold it at their farm sale..... ...We got a NH 269 the previous fall but used both in the field..... It worked good but was a little slow with the V-4 Wisconsin. We never had any problems with it. The engine was sold to the Amish and the baler is sitting out in a patch of weeds about 20 miles away from me. I should have bought it, but it was so big and I didn't have a large amount of money to play with at the time anyhow.

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kevin osborn

01-11-2003 10:10:03




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
I have a John Deere 116, just like the one my grandpa bought in 1950.Used upto 3 years ago on about 8 acres.The one my grandpa had did a lot of custom work in the Newton Iowa area , one of the first fully automated balers around. A good reliable machine in its day.



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Okla/Kans Bill

01-11-2003 12:53:06




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 Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to kevin osborn, 01-11-2003 10:10:03  

Is a J D 116 bailer a side shooter style, the bale chamber exits out the left side rather than out the rear? If so, My dad said a coach at Wathena Kansas would, in the summertime bale everywhere with one and a Case tractor. I think those came out in the late 40s and sstayed up into the early 50s



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Leroy

01-12-2003 12:17:44




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 Re: Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-11-2003 12:53:06  
The 116 is the side discharge baler, came out in 1946, changed versions about 1950 to last year 1956, the wagon hitch and chute was not designed by John Deere but by Holdren Bros. of West Liberty, Ohio and was not pattened by them so John Deere was able to start making their own Version copying the Holdren hitch, the baler required all 4 rolls of wire to work, no reserve to switch to if you run out, two rolls on the bottom and the second two on top and the wire was twisted at both ends of the bale, smaller rolls of wire that you cannot by today, I have both the early and late versions, the 114 came out about the same time as the late version and was a 2" thiner bale, The 14 T came out in 1955 and was the death of the sidewinder,116-114 balers

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Richard

01-12-2003 11:42:31




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 Re: Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-11-2003 12:53:06  
Yep, We had one on our farm, now sits out at my uncles. Two sizes, a 114, and the 116 was the larger of the two. Tied with wire and they were either pto or would come with a waukeesha engine if to be pulled by a smaller tractor.



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Ernie Bob

01-10-2003 22:58:56




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
I have a 1957 NH Model 80, wire tie that I used up until 2 years ago. It still worked when I parked it, it just took a little to much tinkering to keep it going. It would put out 80 lb. bales consistently. I now use a NH 276 it's much motre reliable for the 100 + acres I put up.



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Jim in Michigan

01-10-2003 19:48:45




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
i use NH 66 and NH 68 Hayliner,,,I used to have a old NH with a big plunger on top of the machine,,used it once but it was so big and heavy I couldnt pull it,,Jim



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Fudd@work

01-10-2003 18:59:02




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 Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla/Kans Bill, 01-10-2003 18:49:09  
I don't know what year my JD 14T is, I guess it to be a mid to late 50's. I don't do much but might make the 5 acre min. I do custom baling for a few people.



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Okla kans Bill

01-10-2003 19:09:20




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 Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Fudd@work, 01-10-2003 18:59:02  

yup, your right. thats when they made them. They did alot of bailing too. I remember a neighbor had one and hayed everywhere in the country. He raised his rates from 8 cents a balet to 10 and my dad had a fit. I also remember one time, that we were bailing and putting p hay at night. I guess my dad thought 10 cent bales ought to weigh more, so he told the guy, Warren Grabel to up the weight. It was dark and when we had a chance, me or my brother sneakedup and uncranked the bale chamber hand cranks so that we could handle the bales. That was 50 yrs ago lol I remember another time dad got the field all raked and when he saw it, he said the windrow was too big and he woldnt bale it. we had a big ditch adjoining the field and dad hitched the horses to the dump rake and brought it to the edge of the ditch and me and my brother pitched it in. Well the ditch filled up, which is what dad wanted, but we didnt know that, so we went to the house and got some matches and lit it.

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Dick Davis

01-11-2003 01:33:09




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 Re: Re: Re: oldest baliers still used on 5 acres or more in reply to Okla kans Bill, 01-10-2003 19:09:20  
My NH 80 was built in 1954, I bale 10 acres plus some custom work, but folks don't want to pay for wire tie. Love to hear that Wisconsin bellow! Dick



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