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KWB

12-28-2002 04:38:20




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I have a 1938 B John Deere that I use for raking hay. I want to get a better setup for tipping over wet windrows. I have seen a front mount unit with a single ground-driven wheel, and a 3-pt setup with two wheels. The front mounted unit looks good to me and it would be easy to mount, but I wonder if the tractor would be too hard to steer. Also would a single wheel do the job? The tractor does not have hydraulics or rockshaft, so mounting the 3-pt one would be quite a project, but I could do it if I had to. Which would you choose? Thanks for your input.

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Dan

12-30-2002 14:52:27




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 Re: tipping windrows in reply to KWB, 12-28-2002 04:38:20  
I have used both the 2 wheel and even a 3 wheel front mount turner and a hay rake. I prefer the rake as it seems if you get it in the right place in the windrow it will roll it very well. We have a 2 wheel turner that was ment to go on the front frame of a tractor. Hand lift as mentioned. My uncle made a bracket to hook it onto the loader arms of his #35 loader on a JD430. That worked ok an could be lifted up at the end of the winrows. It seems like it is harder to adjust than the rake and harder to get setup just right

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Dan

12-30-2002 14:51:04




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 Re: tipping windrows in reply to KWB, 12-28-2002 04:38:20  
I have used both the 2 wheel and even a 3 wheel front mount turner and a hay rake. I prefer the rake as it seems if you get it in the right place in the windrow it will roll it very well. We have a 2 wheel turner that was ment to go on the front frame of a tractor. Hand lift as mentioned. My uncle made a bracket to hook it onto the loader arms of his #35 loader on a JD430. That worked ok an could be lifted up at the end of the winrows. It seems like it is harder to adjust than the rake and harder to get setup just right

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Leroy

12-29-2002 14:18:12




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 Re: tipping windrows in reply to KWB, 12-28-2002 04:38:20  
Most were 1 wheel, never used just used the back end of the rake



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Sean

12-28-2002 13:25:14




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 Re: tipping windrows in reply to KWB, 12-28-2002 04:38:20  
I grew up on a farm where we put up about 7,000 square bales a summer. Putting up that much, there were bound to be times when we got hay wet.

We used to have what we called a windrow turner, which was an implement that mounted on the right frame rail in the front of our WD. It had two large wheels (about 4 feet in diameter) and around the outside diameter of each wheel were mounted a whole bunch of spring teeth, just like you'd find on a regular hayrake. These wheels were mounted on a 45 degree angle to the direction of travel, and were ground driven. As the tractor moved forward, the wheels rotated and the spring teeth flipped the windrow over to the right side, bottum side up. When not in use, the wheels were raised by hand, and secured with a chain. If you've ever seen a wheel rake, it was basically the same principle, only just 2 wheels mounted in front, instead of the 4 or 5 wheels that are towed on a wheel rake.

It worked real well, looked kinda funny, and hindered driver view when not in use. Ours was given to us by a frindly neighbor farmer, I don't remember that it had a name of manufacturer, only that it was painted yellow. Hope that some of this helps.

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Sean

12-28-2002 13:33:05




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 Re: Re: tipping windrows in reply to Sean, 12-28-2002 13:25:14  
Also, to more directly answer your questions. The WD was a narrow front, and I don't remember it to be any more difficult than normal to steer with the windrow turner. Also, I'm doubtful that one wheel in front would be wide enough. If so, the windrows would have to be pretty small (in our operation, we double windrowed alot), and your steering pretty precise.

OK, I'm done...



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