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Implements ignored by parts suppliers?

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Tim(NJ)

10-08-1998 18:36:17




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Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

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DD

10-09-1998 07:45:11




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 Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to Tim(NJ), 10-08-1998 18:36:17  
: Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

Tim, I couldn't agree more. I have an old 8N and have no problem finding literally any part I need for it. The problem is I don't just keep it in my garage, it's a work horse and finding old implement parts is darn near impossible.

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Don

10-09-1998 08:33:52




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 Re: Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to DD, 10-09-1998 07:45:11  
I too concur, there are thousands of Dearborn plows out there, many requiring new shares. It would appear that someone somewhere could economically produce these and other implement replacement parts and develop a market niche that would be financially worth the time and effort.

: : Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

: Tim, : I couldn't agree more. I have an old 8N and have no problem finding literally any part I need for it. The problem is I don't just keep it in my garage, it's a work horse and finding old implement parts is darn near impossible.

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John Healey

10-10-1998 07:09:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to Don, 10-09-1998 08:33:52  
: I too concur, there are thousands of Dearborn plows out there, many requiring new shares. It would appear that someone somewhere could economically produce these and other implement replacement parts and develop a market niche that would be financially worth the time and effort.

: : : Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

: : Tim, : : I couldn't agree more. I have an old 8N and have no problem finding literally any part I need for it. The problem is I don't just keep it in my garage, it's a work horse and finding old implement parts is darn near impossible.


If there were a substantial demand for implement parts then manufacturers would make them available. Parts are dropped from inventory when there is no longer a significant demand. John

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Nolan

10-14-1998 12:11:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to John Healey, 10-10-1998 07:09:34  
: If there were a substantial demand for implement parts then manufacturers would make them available. Parts are dropped from inventory when there is no longer a significant demand. John

However, idiot shelf stockers and managers create the illusion of lack of demand on a regular basis. For example, a certain Wallmart I know of has no demand for guns. After all, they only sell about three a year. Of course, the fact they only order three per year, and that they are sold in a matter of hours isn't considered significant.

Tractorwise, TSC says there is no demand for tractor parts in their nearby store. They say that carefully ignoring that they do not stock parts for me to buy, and that their competitor next door does stock those parts and has a very large demand for them. Is it a surprise then that this particular TSC finds a lack of tractor parts sales? I don't think so.

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Tim(nj)

10-10-1998 15:37:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to John Healey, 10-10-1998 07:09:34  
: : I too concur, there are thousands of Dearborn plows out there, many requiring new shares. It would appear that someone somewhere could economically produce these and other implement replacement parts and develop a market niche that would be financially worth the time and effort.

: : : : Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

: : : Tim, : : : I couldn't agree more. I have an old 8N and have no problem finding literally any part I need for it. The problem is I don't just keep it in my garage, it's a work horse and finding old implement parts is darn near impossible.

: : If there were a substantial demand for implement parts then manufacturers would make them available. Parts are dropped from inventory when there is no longer a significant demand. John

Actually, John, I think you're wrong. Parts are not dropped because of lack of demand for them. Parts are dropped when there is a lack of demand for new equipment. By dropping parts inventories for older machines, farmers are forced to buy new machines at higher prices, because they can't repair their older machines. Designed obsolescene. That's how machinery companies stay in business. Guess that's the way things have to be though. I still think there are some lucrative parts markets being ignored.

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John Healey

10-10-1998 16:32:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to Tim(nj), 10-10-1998 15:37:04  
: : : I too concur, there are thousands of Dearborn plows out there, many requiring new shares. It would appear that someone somewhere could economically produce these and other implement replacement parts and develop a market niche that would be financially worth the time and effort.

: : : : : Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

: : : : Tim, : : : : I couldn't agree more. I have an old 8N and have no problem finding literally any part I need for it. The problem is I don't just keep it in my garage, it's a work horse and finding old implement parts is darn near impossible.

: : : : If there were a substantial demand for implement parts then manufacturers would make them available. Parts are dropped from inventory when there is no longer a significant demand. John

: Actually, John, I think you're wrong. Parts are not dropped because of lack of demand for them. Parts are dropped when there is a lack of demand for new equipment. By dropping parts inventories for older machines, farmers are forced to buy new machines at higher prices, because they can't repair their older machines. Designed obsolescene. That's how machinery companies stay in business. Guess that's the way things have to be though. I still think there are some lucrative parts markets being ignored.

I don't think so Tim. I have no problem buying engine parts for my 50 year old tractor because people like me are still using the tractors but not the implements. John

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Dick Davis

10-11-1998 04:52:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to John Healey, 10-10-1998 16:32:47  
: : : : I too concur, there are thousands of Dearborn plows out there, many requiring new shares. It would appear that someone somewhere could economically produce these and other implement replacement parts and develop a market niche that would be financially worth the time and effort.

: : : : : : Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

: : : : : Tim, : : : : : I couldn't agree more. I have an old 8N and have no problem finding literally any part I need for it. The problem is I don't just keep it in my garage, it's a work horse and finding old implement parts is darn near impossible.

: : : : : : If there were a substantial demand for implement parts then manufacturers would make them available. Parts are dropped from inventory when there is no longer a significant demand. John

: : Actually, John, I think you're wrong. Parts are not dropped because of lack of demand for them. Parts are dropped when there is a lack of demand for new equipment. By dropping parts inventories for older machines, farmers are forced to buy new machines at higher prices, because they can't repair their older machines. Designed obsolescene. That's how machinery companies stay in business. Guess that's the way things have to be though. I still think there are some lucrative parts markets being ignored.

: I don't think so Tim. I have no problem buying engine parts for my 50 year old tractor because people like me are still using the tractors but not the implements. John

: Tim I would have to side with John on this one, while the 'built in obsolescence' is a frequent lament. It is not logical. Is their a machinery dealer offering any equipment small enough for a 8N to handle? Other than lawn and garden stuff the minature farm equipment of yester year is not replaced by like modern equipment to force you to upgrade. How many units / year @ what price would it require to set up a production line do you think?

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Tim(nj)

10-11-1998 16:45:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Implements ignored by parts suppliers? in reply to Dick Davis, 10-11-1998 04:52:27  
: : : : : I too concur, there are thousands of Dearborn plows out there, many requiring new shares. It would appear that someone somewhere could economically produce these and other implement replacement parts and develop a market niche that would be financially worth the time and effort.

: : : : : : : Does anybody else feel that most parts suppliers ignore implements and only sell parts for tractors? I am a farmer, but I do like to restore machinery when I get the chance. Finding parts can be a real chore. For example: there are multitudes of places supplying parts for old Ford and Ferguson tractors, but many of the Dearborn and Ferguson implements are simply ignored. It's one thing to have a restored 9N, but having one with original restored implements is better. It shows more history, like what that tractor was used for, when displayed with implements, instead of tractor alone. If old implement parts were as readily available as tractor parts, more old stuff would be restored instead of scrapped.

: : : : : : Tim, : : : : : : I couldn't agree more. I have an old 8N and have no problem finding literally any part I need for it. The problem is I don't just keep it in my garage, it's a work horse and finding old implement parts is darn near impossible.

: : : : : : : : If there were a substantial demand for implement parts then manufacturers would make them available. Parts are dropped from inventory when there is no longer a significant demand. John

: : : Actually, John, I think you're wrong. Parts are not dropped because of lack of demand for them. Parts are dropped when there is a lack of demand for new equipment. By dropping parts inventories for older machines, farmers are forced to buy new machines at higher prices, because they can't repair their older machines. Designed obsolescene. That's how machinery companies stay in business. Guess that's the way things have to be though. I still think there are some lucrative parts markets being ignored.

: : I don't think so Tim. I have no problem buying engine parts for my 50 year old tractor because people like me are still using the tractors but not the implements. John

: : Tim I would have to side with John on this one, while the 'built in obsolescence' is a frequent lament. It is not logical. Is their a machinery dealer offering any equipment small enough for a 8N to handle? Other than lawn and garden stuff the minature farm equipment of yester year is not replaced by like modern equipment to force you to upgrade. How many units / year @ what price would it require to set up a production line do you think?

Actually, I know of several manufacturers producing 2 bottom 3 point plows, 6 foot 3 point disks, S-tine harrows, etc. for these Ford tractors. Unfornunately for all of us, the stuff is poor quality. I know someone who gave up a 2-bottom 3-pt JD plow that he was using on his NAA, because he had a hard time getting parts. Bought a new plow from a farm supply store. In the three years he's had it, both frogs have disintegrated, the frame cracked behind the left hand pin, and a beam bent. The JD plow never had that trouble, ever.

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