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What haybine would work on a Farmall H?

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Kelly C

11-27-2002 15:57:31




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What haybines would work on a Farmall H?
Just wondering. Next year on my auction treks.
I may want to pick one up.




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Kelly C

11-30-2002 14:10:55




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 Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 15:57:31  
Ok.
This is what I've got so far.
I need a small one 7' max cut.
Hydralics just raise the pick up not the whole machine.

What models fit this bill?
Also will I be able to find one in my $500 max price range?
Oh I do have a M&W hand clutch on the way here as we speak.



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joe from WI

11-30-2002 10:00:34




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 Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 15:57:31  
Hi! Go find a 7' New Holland, like a #477. It should work out o.k. behind an H other than the lack of a live PTO. With the H, aviod the 9'ers. they are good machines, but the H just doesn't have enuff to handle on real well, ESPECIALLY IN HILLY GROUND! ON the down side, the 7' haybines, up here anyway are getting scarce and don't go for cheap at auctions. Iv'e seen them go between $750 and $1500 up here, depending on condition and time of year. Pay particular attention to the cutter bar, bearings and rolls if you find one. Nothing against other makes, NH seems to be the norm around here. GOOD LUCK! Joe

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joe from WI

11-30-2002 11:47:31




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 Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to joe from WI, 11-30-2002 10:00:34  
Food for thought... Last spring my local NH dealer told me that he could get me a brand new #477 or the equivelent. plan on spending $8000????



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Kelly C

11-30-2002 14:02:44




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 Re: Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to joe from WI, 11-30-2002 11:47:31  
Ahh no.
I might spend $500 for a good used one. Otherwise
my $25 JD#5 and what ever crimper I find for $100 will do.



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joe from WI

11-30-2002 18:52:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-30-2002 14:02:44  
AHH NO me either!!!!!



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Hugh MacKay

11-29-2002 02:51:48




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 Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 15:57:31  
I would think trying to run any 9' Haybine in heavy hay with a Farmall H would be a frustrating experience. Might work in light hay, but then if all you have is light hay you would be better off with a mower. I have never run a Haybine with a transmission driven pto, that one will not help either.

When my dad bought NH 460 Haybine in 1959 Farmall 300 with IPTO was the largest tractor on farm. We thought, at the time, the 300 ran the Haybine well. On surge loads in heavy alfalfa, 300 governors would break 3-6 shear bolts per day. Later on I later used that same Haybine on Farmalls 560D and 656D I can not ever remember breaking a shear bolt on those larger diesels. I believe the diesel is more important than the extra hp, both are good. I farmed in dairy country and the consencus amoung farmers was, 9' Haybine needed 50+hp, live pto and a diesel engine.

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paul

11-28-2002 20:53:53




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 Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 15:57:31  
I hope you have more than the belly hydraulics for lifting some of the bigger haybines. Also, I'd not want to pull a 9' one, but I don't have much experience with them.

As a side note, aren't those rims just the steel wheels sold during the war years, cut off & rubber rims welded on? Lot's of old blacksmith shops made quite a living doing that back in the 40's.

--->Paul



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Ken Koch

11-28-2002 10:39:58




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 Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 15:57:31  
I see you have a picture of my H on the Case 320 baler on your web site. Can send you a lot of H pictures. I use my MD with wide front and live Hyd. on a New Holland 479 haybine. (Rake with the Farmall A) Works great but I had a problem with the M&W hand clutch and had to finish with the H. It worked fine except the hydraulics are a little slow. (I do have 2 way hyd. on the H also.) The other small problem is the narrow front wheels. I almost went for the hay conditioner myself, but got a good deal on the haybine! Good luck.

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Leroy

11-28-2002 06:33:29




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 Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 15:57:31  
We had the Case as well and puled it with an H, if I remember corectly average hay, 3rd. gear, heaver hay 2nd., Don't plan on moving fast. Want one that the pickup is all you lift, not one that you lift the whole machine, hydrolics are not enough for that. Ours was 9', quit dairy 22 year ago and was used when bought, sold in 81



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Jim in Michigan

11-27-2002 17:42:35




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 Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 15:57:31  
Kelly,,,I have used both a Case 555 and Heston PT10 on my H with no trouble,,I will say that the early PT10 pulls a lil harder then the later style,,the later style PT10 and the Case 555 were the same machines. The early PT10 is made different....I like the Case 555 and would recommened it. It is a older machine and relatively cheap,....Good Luck..Jim



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Kelly C

11-27-2002 18:32:22




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 Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Jim in Michigan, 11-27-2002 17:42:35  
Thanks.
I added the info to my save file.
I have a mower now, but I think a haybine would save some time drying the hay.
I work full time so saving some on waiting for hay to dry might help.



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willyz

11-30-2002 04:02:54




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 Re: Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 18:32:22  
The problem with your H and drying hay will be that you will always be running your front tires over the previously cut swath and flattening it. That is why a wide front end on a mowing tractor is preferable. The old New Idea mowers with the conditioner that hitched behind them were better because the swath you just ran over would go through the conditioner and this would fluff it up and windrow it.

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T.J.-N.J.

11-28-2002 10:19:58




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 Re: Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 18:32:22  
Kelly you might want to look for an old crimper. they are dirt cheap and can be adapted to most cutters. They go for around $75.00 to $150.00 around here and work just as good as a haybine. T,J,



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Leroy

11-28-2002 17:08:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to T.J.-N.J., 11-28-2002 10:19:58  
A crimper will not work as good as a haybine, may not pick up the hay after the mower has cut it,with the haybine it will not get droped to the ground after the cutter bar to have to be picked up again and also the haybine with the real will pickup down hay that a mower will just ride over.



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T.J.-N.J.

11-28-2002 10:16:37




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 Re: Re: Re: What haybine would work on a Farmall H? in reply to Kelly C, 11-27-2002 18:32:22  
Kelly you might want to look for an old crimper. they are dirt cheap and can be adapted to most cutters. They go for around $75.00 to $150.00 around here and work just as good as a haybine. T,J,



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