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Doug Rogers

10-29-2002 10:32:20

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I have a couple of neighbors that have asked me to cut and bale (small square) their hay. I don't mind doing it but I don't need any of their hay and I don't want to do it for free. Also I will not pick it up. These are both irregular shaped fields with several trees scattered around to go around. I would prefer to charge by the bale in the field. What should I ask?

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DRGreen

10-30-2002 19:51:02

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

Here in Maryland, I do some for folks after my hay is in. Most are horse farms of 10-15 ac. For decent fields within a couple miles of home I get $1.25/bale to cut, rake and bale if the hay looks like it will make 1 1/2 ton/acre or more. If light, I charge a bit more per bale. I charge for travel if more than a couple miles. They pull my wagons in and unload. One guy pays my son and his friends $10/hr to put it in the barn. One place has real small odd shaped fields with tight turns, etc. I charge the same with the hay left on the ground and probably should get more because of the extra time, wear on PTO shafts from sharp turns, etc. They can pull my wagon to pick it up but find it's quicker and easier to just toss it on a pick up because it's hard to get a wagon in where they want to store it. One place pays just for fuel because he and his wife make it a point to come help me get my hay put away. Theirs gets done before anyone elses. One thing I have found is to make darn sure they know that the risk of their hay getting wet falls on them. I call before I'm ready to cut and let them decide. It might be worthless if wet but it still cost me the same time and $$$ to run my equipment so I expect to be paid.

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Simple solution

10-30-2002 14:43:49

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

There is always one for every problem.

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Over Charge

10-30-2002 11:43:06

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

Problem will more than likely resolve itself, give them a price in left field. Apparently, you are not into doing it at all

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Doug Rogers

10-30-2002 12:42:26

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Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to Over Charge , 10-30-2002 11:43:06

Over Charge: As a matter of fact I really like baling hay. I just don't like picking it up. It's just that when you get a lot of money tied up in equipment, you hate to wear it out just doing someone else a favor.

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I know the feeling

10-30-2002 14:40:51

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Re: Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-30-2002 12:42:26

And that is exactly what happens, equipment will breakdown and there you are, actually doing what you really are not wanting to do and in a position that you really do not want to be in. I would say "find someone else", and concentrate on my own farming needs. Hope this helps.

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Over Charge

10-30-2002 11:43:03

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

Problem will more than likely resolve itself, give them a price in left field. Apparently, you are not into doing it at all

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Rick

10-30-2002 05:53:21

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

I charge for each trip if no hay is involved. $10.50 acre mow. $5.50 acre rake. 75cents bale to bale.

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Rick

10-30-2002 05:52:59

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

I charge for each trip if no hay is involved. $10.50 acre mow. $5.50 acre rake. 75cents bale to bale.

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Rick

10-30-2002 05:52:16

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

I charge for each trip if no hay is involved. $10.50 acre mow. $5.50 acre rake. 75cents bale to bale.

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Hugh MacKay

10-30-2002 03:25:33

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

Doug: I always had a rule of thumb on any custom work. Ckeck out new list prices for equipment you will be using. For example, lets say you have 10 year old tractor and baler. Forget what you paid for it. Look at parts you may have to buy as well as replacement costs. Lets say your tractor and baler would cost new in 2002, $50,000. for rounded figures. $50. per hour is what you need to be taking in or your machinery is better off in your shed. $1.00 per hour for every $1,000. of new replacement cost.

If you want to work by the bale you know productivity of your machine, not hard to figure.

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Sven

10-30-2002 10:48:38

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Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-30-2002 03:25:33

Hugh,
That's an interesting number, I just worked out my costs and came up with exactly the same number, $1/$1000 of capital / hour. Anything less and I figure I'd lose. Another interesting number I figured $17 to $20 an hr run time cost to cover owning and operating costs of tractor with implement.

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Hugh MacKay

10-30-2002 11:57:35

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Re: Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to Sven, 10-30-2002 10:48:38

Sven:
Bet there is not a lot of guys in the antique tractor game that want to explain that one to their better half.

When farming I used to do a lot of custom work, and it was always a hard one to decide on what was reasonable and fair. Every spring I used to pay a visit to a dealer I did a lot of business with. Just asked for the new list prices on new equivalent of my equipment. I could match tractor to any implement and quickly there was my price.

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Gary IN TEXAS

10-29-2002 18:03:22

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

I custom bale hay ;and charge $1.10 a bale, have charged up to $1.50. Mine is a Deere 346 wire tie baler as well. Thats for cutting raking and baling. Prices are going to have to go up though, everything else is going up so the piper is going to have to be paid.

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Joe Ferguson

10-29-2002 16:51:16

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

Hi Doug

Many years ago a neighbor asked me to bale his hay
I broke my baler for many $ because his fields were like junk yard and all sort of things were
hidden under the hay...fence wire..fence posts
old tires....rocks...tree branches..and name it
I had also a perforated (filled) tractor back tire
when passing on an hidden cultivator teeth.
If you already visited their fields and you are sure there is nothing but hay it should be OK
otherwise $#%@%# to your baler.

Good luck

Joe Ferguson

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david

10-29-2002 10:42:07

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Re: What do you charge in reply to Doug Rogers, 10-29-2002 10:32:20

$1.00-1.25, cut, rake, bale, drop. If it's close. Upper side if pulling a wagon (they secure & pay the labor).

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paul

10-29-2002 11:33:16

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Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to david, 10-29-2002 10:42:07

Some do baling for 50 cents, raking for a nickel. Those would be bottom line numbers. Some charge a lot more. Depends where & who you are, if you are just recovering costs, returning favors, or wish to make a bit for machine replacement/ time.

--->Paul

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Burrhead

10-29-2002 13:03:44

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Re: Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to paul, 10-29-2002 11:33:16

It's a straight $1 per bale around me to cut, rake and bale it, or it's $.85 to bale it after it's cut and raked.

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John

10-29-2002 14:40:34

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Re: Re: Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to Burrhead, 10-29-2002 13:03:44

Around here to cut ,rake and bale droped in the fild for a 35 to 50# bale it's $1.00. For bigger bales they get $.10 more

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The Hayman

10-30-2002 00:01:39

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What do you charge in reply to John , 10-29-2002 14:40:34

I charge 2.50 a bale,the fields around here are small,like 1 or 2 acres with 200 or 300 bales.In these small fields you need a swamper to throw the bales out of the way so the baler-man doesn't have to constantly stop to move bales.

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