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rwh

10-26-2002 14:59:25




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This one'll mark me as a man not involved in production agriculture, but here goes. When I go to an auction, there are always lots of four-wheeled grain bin wagons, but as I look out in the fields this week, all of them are much larger two-wheel units. Seems like the two-wheelers would be mighty tippy. What's the rationale here?




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David B

10-27-2002 17:33:38




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 Re: question from a non-farmer in reply to rwh, 10-26-2002 14:59:25  
Do you reaalize how much corn has to be moved to keep one of thes modern combines running? Most of these combine hoppers will more than fill a wagon like you are reffering to and these large corn heads fill the hopper before you can get back to the end of the field. This is progress, I am not sure it is good, but you either be effiecent or some body else does your farming. I am not a real large farmer but use a couble of these grain garts, mine are small and hold 500+ bushels, I work by myself and don't get to unload the hopper on the move, but two of these more than fill the trailer truck and off to the river it goes. Can harvesr 500+ acres of corn as a one man operation.

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Hugh MacKay

10-27-2002 01:45:57




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 Re: question from a non-farmer in reply to rwh, 10-26-2002 14:59:25  
Tim puts it very well, they didn't have these grain carts or buggies when I was farming. I used an auger fitted in the 4 wheeled grain wagon, it wouldn't stand a chance with these new combines. The fact of matter is trucks should never be on field. Nothing will crush field drainage tile any quicker.

I watched an operation just a few days back, CaseIH combine 8 row, didn't catch model number. Trucker was parking highway grain trailers at end of field. The hardest working man in operation was guy with 100+ hp tractor and grain buggy. The way he was moving tractor had to be power shift. He would take a load of grain from combine, race across field, auger into trailers, race back to combine. I tell you that guy was a busy lad. Once, during time I watched empty grain trailer didn't arrive in time. In 20 minutes Combine and grain buggy were both parked full of corn. That guy in the buggy tractor deserved the break.

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tim[in]

10-26-2002 15:32:30




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 Re: question from a non-farmer in reply to rwh, 10-26-2002 14:59:25  
what you see at the auctions are 'wagons' . the two wheel 'jobbies' are called grain carts. we use the grain carts to load from the combine to the trucks, semis, and wagons. most of the time if we have a helper, he drives the wgons, semis or trucks to the grain elevator or to the farm storage bins to empty the grain. when the fields are wet or when the grain 'haulers' as we call them are gone , we need something to dump the grain in or get it to the hauling devices id the fields are muddy. this is where the grain cart comes in. it stays hooked to a tractor when in use or full. thus the thing wont tip over when loadedthe tractor provides the stability. plus the two huge tires are for flotation to keep it from sinking in soft dirt or mud and getting stuck or causing 'compaction'. with huge fields you would constantly be driving back and forth across them with the combine or haulers and packing the groung to where it would be like cement when it dries out or stays wet longer because the ground where it once had a loose granual condition where air and water can flow freely through it, no longer permits the passage of air and water thus rendering it unsuitable for growing crops. hope this helps

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rwh

10-26-2002 18:48:12




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 Re: Re: question from a non-farmer in reply to tim[in], 10-26-2002 15:32:30  
A very well-put and concise explanation! Many thanks.



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LH Another Non Production Farmer

10-26-2002 15:25:27




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 Re: question from a non-farmer in reply to rwh, 10-26-2002 14:59:25  
Those old style 4 wheeled grvity wagons were fine i their day bu carried only so much weight in grain. The bi problem especially when pulling them i tandem, was fishtailing going down the road to the grain bins or elevator. The nes Carts carry much more weight and you don't have the fishtailing proble, and the power augers unload quicker than the gravity wagons did as well. Time savings and capacity are the biggest factors in modern farming.

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tim[in]

10-26-2002 15:33:47




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 Re: Re: question from a non-farmer in reply to LH Another Non Production Farmer, 10-26-2002 15:25:27  
yeh that too !!lol



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LH Another Non Production Farmer

10-26-2002 15:24:50




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 Re: question from a non-farmer in reply to rwh, 10-26-2002 14:59:25  
Those old style 4 wheeled grvity wagons were fine i their day bu carried only so much weight in grain. The bi problem especially when pulling them i tandem, was fishtailing going down the road to the grain bins or elevator. The nes Carts carry much more weight and you don't have the fishtailing proble, and the power augers unload quicker than the gravity wagons did as well. Time savings and capacity are the biggest factors in modern farming.

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