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scott

09-10-2002 15:39:36




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We have had most of our farmable ground on CRP for 13yrs. We took off approx 5 acres this year and planted 1 acre in sunflowers for wildlife. Plowing was rough this spring and discing took 4-5 passes to make it halfway useable for sunflowers. {using 1963 D17 Allis with 3-14 snap coupler plow and 10ft wheel disc} Now we want to use the rest of this ground for different things - produce - tomatoes - peppers - herbs - beans -etc. Wondering if it's best to plow in spring or fall - I read here where discing can be done first to break sod then plow and disc. Do you think it would be an erosion problem to plow in fall? I have a buddy who said he would be glad to come over in the spring and burn off the field with roundup but I wonder if it wouldn't be better to roll it over this fall and let it rot down a bit and then burn it off with roundup this spring when everything starts coming back. Like I said before it was pretty tough plowing and discing this heavy sod this year and I sure would like to find a better way to do this. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance

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Chuck

09-11-2002 15:32:58




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 Re: Reclaiming CRP ground in reply to scott, 09-10-2002 15:39:36  
Each one of has our own way. Fall plowing for me is the best way, if possible. Your location may determine the best time, I'm in Mo. I'm not an advocate of using herbicides when there is another way. Check with several of your neighbors, they know what works best in your area. If the ground is steep and erosion is a problem, plow in strips several hundred feet wide and leave a grass strip of a similar width. If you want to plant vegetables don't get to big to fast. 10 acres of market garden is a full time job. whereas 10 acres of soybean, field corn or other commodity is not a big time slot.

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LeeJon

09-11-2002 14:46:55




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 Re: Reclaiming CRP ground in reply to scott, 09-10-2002 15:39:36  
Stay away from Fall plowing, way to much erosion.



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bud

09-11-2002 08:54:33




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 Re: Reclaiming CRP ground in reply to scott, 09-10-2002 15:39:36  
Scott,
If it were me, I would leave the plow in the yard. I would burn it with roundup, disk it to break up the grass on the top of the ground and then I would cultivate it with spikes on my toolbar. I start out very shallow and with each pass put it deeper in the ground. At the same time I am cultivating I pull drags behind the cultivator. When the ground is worked as deep as you want to go disk it and pull the drags again to keep the field as smooth as possible.

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Tom--Question for Bud

09-11-2002 20:17:47




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 Re: Re: Reclaiming CRP ground in reply to bud, 09-11-2002 08:54:33  
Bud ,you said that you pull spikes on your toobar or you talking about a chiesel on your toolbar? I am picturing spikes as spikes on a spike tooth harrow. If you would please explain what you are talking about. Different people from different parts of the country have different names for the same equipment. Thanks



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paul

09-10-2002 21:50:09




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 Re: Reclaiming CRP ground in reply to scott, 09-10-2002 15:39:36  
A lot of farmers would say to spray it & notill it, don't let it wash away. Can we assume that it is kinda steep since it was in crp?

Sounds like you are going into small fields, want cleared ground.

Me, I would plow it in fall, leave it alone. Here in Minnesota, the winter freezes it & snow covers it, not much runoff of these tight clay soils esp with lumpy sod, works up real nice in spring as winter softens up the clumps.

It's very hard to put an oats crop into this, much easier to go to beans where you can cultivate it or hit it with a grass spray. Or corn has some spray options.

--->Paul

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Dan

09-10-2002 20:54:35




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 Re: Reclaiming CRP ground in reply to scott, 09-10-2002 15:39:36  
I broke up some hay ground last fall that had been in sod for about 30 plus years. Unfortunately it was a dry year and I din't have a real heavy disc. As a result It did not plow well and I had a terrible time getting rid of the sod in the spring. Planted it in oats for hay and is working up great this fall to plant back to hay again. In this area most guys work the sod a number of times with a heavy disc, preferabley offset. Go several different directions until you have mostly dirt then plow. They also use a ripper before plowing to break the ground up deeper. I would spray the weeds or whatever is on the ground now with roundup and 2-4D mix, burn or clear off the remaining ground cover then work it up.

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