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Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower?

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weedeater

09-03-2002 19:29:21




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does anyone know of an older brand of pitmanless mower? I would like to mow down into the ditch and the bank in front of my house to discourage the snow from hanging around. cheap would be nice.




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JoeK

09-04-2002 09:30:55




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 Re: Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower? in reply to weedeater, 09-03-2002 19:29:21  
Had same problem before remodeling ditchbank(with Hwy Dept help&permission)Tried sickle mower on Garrden tractor/farm tractor but didn't accomplish much.You might consider aquiring somethin like a Swisher Trailmower(mini bushhog)which is self powered and can be offset to trail to left/right of tractor.Would not even be too hard to build a similar unit from an old push mower or tractor deck.....just a thought..JoeK

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Paul R.

09-04-2002 07:50:08




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 Re: Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower? in reply to weedeater, 09-03-2002 19:29:21  
Pitmanless.... let's see, the oldest one's I can think of were Olivers. #12 (semi-mounted) and a #355 (3-point) had no long pitman arm, if you can find one. All the Fords I can think of had pitman's, except maybe for a #515. Some New Hollands I've seen had no pitmans. Goto Wenger's of Meyerstown website and look around at the Farm equipment for sale. They usually have several sickle mowers for sale, good pics, might help you find something.

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RMD

09-04-2002 07:05:30




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 Re: Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower? in reply to weedeater, 09-03-2002 19:29:21  
The first pitmanless mower was the Allis-Chalmers No. 7. This mower had "twin-wheel drive" which was also used on the later AC 80- and 82 series. The mounted version of the No. 7 was Snap-coupler hitch and it also required an additonal bracket to fit the final drive on various AC tractors. These can sometimes be bought fairly cheap ($500 or less), but you have to have the right type of AC tractor to mount them on. There was also a trail (drawbar towed) version of the No. 7 which would work on any tractor. The later twin-wheel mowers (80- and 82-series) came in a variety of mountings - special rear and side mountings for AC-tractors; 3-point hitch versions and trail versions. Prices vary, but the AC's are generally cheaper than New Holland mowers.

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weedeater

09-04-2002 08:13:09




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 Re: Re: Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower? in reply to RMD, 09-04-2002 07:05:30  
I appreciate all the feedback. Am I correct in thinking these pitmanless mowers can mow with sickle drooping or lifted up an angle depending on the lifting mechanism range?



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RMD

09-04-2002 10:51:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower? in reply to weedeater, 09-04-2002 08:13:09  
The AC twin-wheel drive mowers can easily do from 45 degrees below level to 45 degrees above level. But most of these mowers don't have lifting devices to angle the cutter bar in that range, unless they are side mounted. You have to manually move the cutter bar from the travel position and flop it over onto the slope. I have a rear mount No. 7 that I use on some steep banks the state DOT created along my driveway. The banks are high at one end so I have to cut from both the bottom and top of the slope. It works to an extent, but it's far from a perfect answer. Cutting from the top is real hairy.

Keep in mind that older mowers are not going to have a cutter bar over 7 ft. long, which limits the height of bank that you can cut. To get the bar to lay over from the top of the slope, you have to relieve tension on counterbalance springs that would normally try to hold the bar in a level position.

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weedeater

09-04-2002 12:40:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower? in reply to RMD, 09-04-2002 10:51:16  
Thanks for all the information. I think I will have a dirt mover come in shave back the bank far enough to safely run a lawn tractor on. I grew up driving row crop tractors along soft shouldered country roads, I have a healthy respect for the unexpected.



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weedeater

09-04-2002 12:37:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oldest(cheapest) pitmanless mower? in reply to RMD, 09-04-2002 10:51:16  
Thanks for all the information. I think I will have a dirt mover come in shave back the bank far enough to safely run a lawn tractor on. I grew up driving row crop tractors along soft shouldered country roads, I have a healthy respect for the unexpected.



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