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John

09-01-2002 14:54:00




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Has anyone used a Cutditioner? What type of cutting knifes do they have, how do they condition the hay? What are their good points and bad points
Thnaks!




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Farmer Bob

01-03-2004 19:43:47




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 Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to John, 09-01-2002 14:54:00  
Does anyone know how I can get a hold of a manuel for the New Idea Cutditioner 275?



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Farmer Tom

09-03-2002 07:44:45




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 Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to John, 09-01-2002 14:54:00  
I have a 279 NI Cutditioner. It does a good job, but as said earlier, takes a lot of horsepower. It works the tail off of my JD3020 but my 1850 Oliver really doesn't know its behind it. It cuts with a simple rotating drum with several rows of cupped flails on it. In real tough stemmy stuff, it has a propensity to strip the stems and leave them standing rather than cutting them off like a sickle. I like mine, its simple in design and has multiple uses. I have often tedded with mine, used it as a rake, clipped/raked straw stubble and even mowed the pasture with it. Like everything, it does have its good points and then some bad ones. All in all, it's a tough machine.

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del

09-01-2002 19:42:33




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 Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to John, 09-01-2002 14:54:00  
The New Idea Cutditioner cuts with flail type knives.They were really popular in the late 1960's and 1970's. They took a lot of power to operate in heavy hay but they were a big improvement over a sickle bar mower and a seperate conditioner.They did a good job of conditioning hay and I thought they seemed to chew up heavy stemed weeds. Hay looked good in the bale after being cut with one of these. Most people around home went to haybines replacing the cutditioner then discbines or disc mowers. A seven foot cutditioner needed about 60 to 70 h.p.

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Mike in Houston

09-01-2002 19:00:52




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 Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to John, 09-01-2002 14:54:00  
John,
I'm assuming your talking about a Mo-Co (mower conditioner). If so, here's the story, they cut with either a sickle or discs like the newer disc mowers. The sickles slide V shaped knifes in and out of guards. About the only way I know how to explain it. The discs have blades, two or three to each disc. The discs spin and therefore cut by their blades striking the grass. Both of these types of mo-co's have rollers in which the grass is "mashed" between after it has been cut. This "mashing" really helps the dry down time for stemmy type grasses such as Haygrazer which is used in Texas a lot. The rollers are, I guess what you would call, coated and have ridges in them which interlock with the opposing roller when it turns. I did see where Vermeer now has all metal rollers. Supposed to not peel like some of the coated rollers.
I hope this makes sense and I'm sure some of the other guys on here will have more to add.
Good luck.

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paul

09-01-2002 22:21:53




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 Re: Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to Mike in Houston, 09-01-2002 19:00:52  
Mo-Co is a John Deere thing. The Cutditioner is a whole different critter - think flail mower.

--->Paul



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bubba

09-01-2002 20:12:22




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 Re: Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to Mike in Houston, 09-01-2002 19:00:52  
Y'all ain't got no idea what a Cut/Ditioner is in Texas, do ya, boy?.



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Mike in Houston

09-03-2002 18:36:30




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 Re: Re: Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to bubba, 09-01-2002 20:12:22  
From what I see here, I would say "NO". Not a clue but now I do. I probably learned more on this one than the guy who left the original post.



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gy3020

09-02-2002 06:55:45




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 Re: Re: Re: New Idea Cutditioner in reply to bubba, 09-01-2002 20:12:22  
Well, I will have to admit that after the past 8 years of baling I have never heard of a Cut/ditioner here in Texas, we do have some of the biggesnt dagcummmed Snipe you will ever hunt though :o).
Gary



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