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What's your opinion on Ford balers?

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Hayseed

07-15-2002 17:50:11




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Well? Are they worth owning or should I continue looking for a New Holland or Deere? I'm using an NAA when I get that back together!




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Kermit in SW MO

07-17-2002 02:47:48




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 Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to Hayseed, 07-15-2002 17:50:11  
IMHO get a New Holland or go with the Deere. I ran Ford tractors for 25 years, and they were pretty good little machines but I never thought much of their balers. A neighbor had one and didn't seem to have as good of service as my New Holland 273 gave. I eventually quit square baling and went to round bales only. A friend bought my NH 273, and still uses it every year.



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Garry

07-16-2002 21:42:59




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 Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to Hayseed, 07-15-2002 17:50:11  
Here in East Texas there are still a few running. Aquired a 542 year before last as the baling season was ending. The man I got it from was quiting baling (age & health reasons, plus he said the old baler just wasn't making as nice a bale as it used to and was miss tying a lot and he didn't want to have to spend any money on it)and was included in deal with cutter, tedder & rake -- needed the tedder, but the deal was all or none and the price was right!

(The man was 'not' greatly mechanically inclined, fixed only the absolutely have to fix stuff! Never adjusted nothing till it completely quit!) He had run it for approx. 10 years @ 1000 - 1200 bales per year.

Adjusted the needles to get them close to where they should be, tightned the bolts holding the knotter assy to the frame and hooked it up last year and run about 30 bales with it just to see if it 'might' still work. Results were promising, dealer costs est. for bearings, bushings, missing springs & hay dogs was close to $300 not counting the billhooks that I filed the grooves out of.

Only thing I know of that he ever replaced on it was the clutch a couple of times and had the drive shaft redone (reinforced with pipe) from twisting it with the clutch being too tight..... ...the baler doesn't have a shear pin, just the clutch that goes to slipping (burning or twisting the drive shaft) if you plug it up or if something gets out of time and the plunger stop stops the plunger. This is the worst thing I think I don't like about it!!

Second worst would be the pick-up, doesn't clean grass hay up off the ground nearly as well as my NH 273.

Garry

PS.. Ya'll be sure to check and make sure that the spring that pulls the plunger stop in place and the needle carriage brake is working.....this old baler didn't have any brake padding and didn't even have the spring on it!! The man said he didn't know if it had ever even had them to begin with!! Talk about being lucky all those years...never broke a needle...

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Jerry D in NC

07-16-2002 18:45:31




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 Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to Hayseed, 07-15-2002 17:50:11  
But of course I have to weigh in here. The Ford 530 baler is a fine baler that does well. No it does not have the following that a NH or JD has but will match well with that NAA and bale all day. There was a long thread on this topic about 2 months ago so if you search the archives you should find quite a bit of information about the pros and cons of the Ford 530. I do own one and it bales hay regularly without problems.

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gy3020

07-16-2002 09:22:42




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 Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to Hayseed, 07-15-2002 17:50:11  
I personally run a deere 346 wire tie square baler and a deere 530 round baler. Have worked super for me, I really don't think I would run another brand but if I did it would be New Holland and then Hesston in that order. I have never seen a Ford baler operate so I can't really play them down but I do know what I have works good and I'll stay with what works.]



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norbertkanzler

07-15-2002 18:57:58




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 Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to Hayseed, 07-15-2002 17:50:11  
I own a Ford Baler model 530 with a model 500 kicker Works wonderful. Can bale all day (1000) bales for me and never miss tieing one bale. Do not use plastic twine. Store baler under cover. You can still get parts from dealer
get the operators manual and repair book from dealer



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Jerry D in NC

07-16-2002 18:53:36




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 Re: Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to norbertkanzler, 07-15-2002 18:57:58  
Norbert,

Would you send me a note so we could exchange email. I would like to get some info about that T500 kicker.



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norbertkanzler

07-17-2002 20:40:58




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 Re: Re: Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to Jerry D in NC, 07-16-2002 18:53:36  
I have very limited computer skills do not know how to email you I have used this baler for 10 years put in about 20000 bales a year No problems. I am a firm believer of Ford-New Holland dealers they have parts and very good mechanics Kicker was on the baler when I bought it



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JD70Jim

07-16-2002 08:00:53




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 Re: Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to norbertkanzler, 07-15-2002 18:57:58  
The last time I saw one work was decades ago. They are around, however. You see them at the consignment auctions---the ones where you take your otherwise impossible to get rid of old machinery, and junk, to sell. The Ford 530 baler doesn't seem to be popular. They bring a couple of hundred dollars when they get a bid at all.

A Ford 530, in excellant condition, properly adjusted and set up, may well be a good baler. Most of them arn't in that condidtion anymore and finding an "expert" who knows how to set one up could be difficult. That is why most people wanting an older baler ger a Deere or a NH. Plenty of people understand them and can service them properly.

I wouldn't look at an old IHC baler either, for the same reasons!

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Just_an_Idiot

07-16-2002 19:46:39




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 Re: Re: Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to JD70Jim, 07-16-2002 08:00:53  
Wow, I guess my name says it all. I use an old Oliver 630 with a 15 kicker. I am looking at a Ford, and i just bought an IHC. The Ford is powered by a Wisconsin engine. The IHC in an old 50T i think, it has a Continental engine on it. Bought it at the Red Power Show this weekend. It needs alot of work but it is like the one i grew up with. As far as knotters i thought most were very simular. Mine on my Oliver is the same as NH, or at least pretty close. Well, I guess thats why i call myself JUST AN IDIOT.

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JD70Jim

07-17-2002 07:17:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to Just_an_Idiot, 07-16-2002 19:46:39  
Well, you can't be too much of an idiot if you are skilled at keeping any of those old, off brand balers working. Most people who tend to take their balers to the dealer for the major work are having a hard time finding OLIVER dealers, for example, who can still work on one.



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paul

07-15-2002 22:15:10




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 Re: Re: What's your opinion on Ford balers? in reply to norbertkanzler, 07-15-2002 18:57:58  
Can an NAA pull a 530, or is that getting to be a bigger baler?

Around 'here' you can't hardly give a Ford baler away for free, but there are so few around that I've never seen one work, so i'm no judge on the issue. :)

--->Paul



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