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Jim Pessek

07-07-2002 13:44:16




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I'm working on an Emerson-Brantingham horse mower and one of the levers is rusted tight. I 've had it sitting in diesel fuel for about 2 weeks and still had no result. I've also tried penetrating sprays and hammering it. (I stopped hammering it when the same piece broke on the parts mower.) Dad says try lighting the diesel fuel on the lever and that might break the rust loose. Is this a good idea? Does any one else have any sugestions?

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Michael Soldan

07-10-2002 18:14:55




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 Re: Rusted lever? in reply to Jim Pessek, 07-07-2002 13:44:16  
Jim, I work in a repair shop and there is seldom a day goes by that we don't use the torch to heat something to unseize it. Even a propane torch held on something long enough will get it hot enough to break the rust..we pour cold water over the heated metal and the sudden change in temperature between the two surfaces will break it free. We do this on rusted bolts , bleeder screws, studs on manifolds, wheel cylinder bolts etc.I've used heat on tractor manifolds, seized shaft on the seed drill...hundreds of times and I have never broken anything by heating it and cooling it...and it works!!Good luck from Mike in Exeter Ontario

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josh

07-10-2002 11:59:50




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 Re: Rusted lever? in reply to Jim Pessek, 07-07-2002 13:44:16  
try flid film in spay cans.
or liquid wrench in liquid form yellow tin can
work it lil after stuf soks in.mabe light tap to free help.
liquid wrench like liquid i like it goes into spot
no air.



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Old Iron

07-07-2002 19:25:07




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 Re: Rusted lever? in reply to Jim Pessek, 07-07-2002 13:44:16  
Jim,

If you don't want to heat it may I suggest trying to soak it in old transmission oil. It don't always work but I like to use heat as a last resort.

This may sound crazy but this works on rusted nuts and bolts. Try using a few drops of peperment oil. I have had luck on nuts and bolts but have had limited success on anything larger.

I like the iron you have around your place. Where are you located at? We might need to trade parts back and forth for our "toys".

My 2 bits worth,

Old Iron

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Lee

07-07-2002 19:00:45




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 Re: Rusted lever? in reply to Jim Pessek, 07-07-2002 13:44:16  
use toilet bowel Cleaner. be sure you have plenty of ventilation !!!!! due not breath the fumes good luck



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Bill

07-07-2002 14:05:15




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 Re: Rusted lever? in reply to Jim Pessek, 07-07-2002 13:44:16  

Is the lever handle wood or metal.. I remember seeing a McCormick Mower, Im guessing was a #4. It might ot hurt at allto lite it, and thereby to mix a bit of gasoline to the diesal to ignite it. The principal beig the same asheating wth a torch a rusted piece of metal to expand it. Any movement at all is movement and heat expansion is just that, movement, but be careful with beating or prying it after heating it. Heating it weakenes the metal, the moreso the hotter it is when you try to move irt. Good luck

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paul

07-07-2002 18:18:23




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 Re: Re: Rusted lever? in reply to Bill, 07-07-2002 14:05:15  
I would not mix diesel & gasoline & light it. Dangerous idea. Won't lecure any more on that, should be obvious.

Heat may cause movement to break things up. I'd use my torch, but sounds like not an option for ya. Lighting the diesel might help. Can change the properties of the metal some, I'll assume it's already a little weak from the rust, so proceed with caution. Sounds like you are on the right track with penetrating oils & gentle pounding...

Is it all steel, is it all cast, or is it steel vs cast? Makes a difference which part I'd pound/ heat.

--->Paul

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Jim Pessek

07-07-2002 19:29:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Rusted lever? in reply to paul, 07-07-2002 18:18:23  
It is a combination of steel and cast. The handle is steel and the part I'm trying to break free is cast. I took a quick picture of it with my digital camera I'll try to get some better pictures of it tommorow.



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Bill

07-07-2002 18:58:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Rusted lever? in reply to paul, 07-07-2002 18:18:23  

The levers I have here, as far as I can remember are all , say 18ga steel, Tho I know that the older ones were hard stuff. The arm should be steel, and the handle cast, but whos to say, Now i do have a drill that was made in 1876, and I cant really speak for what its got as I havnt got yet to restore it to working condition.



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Bill

07-07-2002 18:53:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Rusted lever? in reply to paul, 07-07-2002 18:18:23  

The levers I have here, as far as I can remember are all , say 18ga steel, Tho I know that the older ones were hard stuff. The arm should be steel, and the handle cast, but whos to say, Now i do have a drill that was made in 1876, and I cant really speak for what its got as I havnt got yet to restore it to working condition.



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